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HorseFourThousandSevenHundred

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Intraphase Vol. I
The Palace Of Nine Castles
by Arthur Macey *

EXCERPT [Pgs. 63-70]
[...]
The boy and his older brother had been
playing at soldiers: using the small empty
metal cylinders that powered their pellet
gun as hand grenades. One brass cylinder
had been overthrown and gone astray, breaking
the ornamental blue glass vase in their hallway.
The boys had picked up the broken pieces, and
put them into the trash. Fearing discovery of
the accident, the older brother had suggested
that the younger brother throw the handle,
with its jagged triangles at both ends, across
the street into Hendricks's overgrown yard.
The younger Stone had agreed and complied with
the older brother's suggestion, never feeling
the tear as the razor sharp, jagged triangle
at the bottom of the handle, had caressed his
skin, glazing across his palm, tearing it
agape, and splaying a wide gash that bled
profusely from the wrist line to the soft
webbing between the two middle fingers.

Baily had brought the boy to the hospital
for some stitches. As he walked the boy through
the wide emergency room entrance, he had touched
the boys shoulder. Suddenly he was in 1962,
sitting with the boy at his home, on a two step
concrete porch, two residences previous to the
location he was in now, unable to speak.
He was in the body of a small, black child,
quietly watching the traffic go by at this
other house.

Each time a car would pass by, both of their
points of perception would hover over the
intersection and observe the person's entire
life up till that point. They would then return
to the stone steps of the porch, sitting silently
until the next car approached, and time was slowed
to almost zero.
As they passed through the automatic doors of the
hospital, the boy looked at Baily and said with
his mind to Hendricks in the child voice:
"You were my first friend. You came back in time
to find me. You have been following me ever since.
The little black boy is not really there, unless
you are. I was alone, but could feel you in
the future."

That was the day Bailey wished he had the
"other" kids gift for the glib turn of a phrase.
He just looked at the boy and said out loud:
"You bleeding child. Let us proceed forward."
After the boy was stitched up and driven home,
the last thing he ever said to Bailey was:
"Thank you for being my friend."
By the time Bailey came to grips with whether
it had really happened, the boy's family had
moved, and he would not see him again for quite
a while. Baily would recognize the boy, but the
boy would not recognize him... at first.
Partially overcome by the endless confusions
of a world that Bailey wondered if he or the
child even belonged in. Bailey remembered
malfunction zero-zero-zero-two now.

When he was with the boy in 1962: he had crossed
through the data grids and info field sections,
where he watched the news of the Kennedy
assassination. Bailey felt the old sadness
for a moment. The boy had felt his sadness and
spoke with his mind:
"I wish that did not happen."
The boy was already old enough to know that he
must create things with caution. The child had
gone into the hallway of his previous house,
pushed a little step stool against the wall,
and climbed its three steps into a shoe closet.
He had sat down cross legged among the rubber
boots, closing the tiny door as if he was some
lost astronaut from another world, then began
visualizing various command structures he had
built from his favorite television shows and
popular movies. He reversed his previous spoken
command decision by doing and undoing the event
several times, until the end result was almost
exactly the same sequential progression as
before he accidentally spoke.

Bailey had found people to talk to about the
events. He had felt helped, and found solace
by reading a lot of books, and was at peace
with the child in his mind. He figured if
there had to be people like that, at least
the kid was a nice boy.
He did often times spend a while pondering the
many phrases and their derivative sayings
that intone: "The road to hell is paved
with good intentions."

Bailey knew not to follow the boy, or worry
about the boy, after that remembrance of the
total progression.
He did sometimes wonder about the world, and
worry for it, knowing the boy's strange
disposition and outlook. He knew that whatever
he might or might not do with the boy, it was
surely in the hands of some greater force.
The next time he would see the boy would be
far in the so called future. This time it was
the "other" boy, Alex, he would come to nickname
Spike. He had spotted him in a supermarket
parking lot as the boy was going into
The Friendly's ice cream parlor. For no reason
known to his sane linear mind, he had approached
the boy, grabbing the eighteen year old young man's
arm just below his tattoo of an owl, and said;
"Mr. Owl."
For a brief moment the other boy was back and
the young man beamed a beautiful smile at Bailey
that made him glad he'd done whatever crazy thing
he had just done.
Aloysius said in mind words: "My first friend."
The boy's eyes had returned to their normal wily
expression, and he nodded politely, then moved away.
As he did, Bailey could hear the older boy's
internal thoughts for about two minutes.
As Alex sat on a curbstone, eating the ice cream
cone he had purchased, Bailey sat in his car,
listening to Page speaking in reverse to Alex.
Modulating it into the pale, bearable monotone
the two boys used that Bailey came to call:
"The Tin Man."

When Alex got up off the curbstone, the younger
boy spoke to him directly. He thanked him again
for his friendship, and told him to enjoy the
beautiful world that is, The Little Earth.
This entire sequence constituted malfunction
0002 & 0001.

All the power possessed by the boy was on
loan to him from the Supreme Infinite Mystery.
When the dog had died, the boy realized he was
not asleep and dreaming in one of the ships
he designed specifically for that purpose.
He was slow to realize it at first. The robot
would now try to lure the boy back into a ship.
On the night the dog died, he was drawn out of
his body when he lay down to sleep. He held a
small, white picket fence in the darkness as a
symbol of his own right to free will. The robot
slowly approached, walking outward from the core.

A smooth, calm stride -- that seemed appropriate
to the boy for a being that he guessed stood about
9-12 feet tall -- ATM appeared as a calm, fluorescent
pearly white, with tinges of grey to mark its main
features and eyebrows. The boy and the robot could
both sense each other's presence. The robot walked
casually by, about fifteen feet away from the boy,
who was now crouched and hiding behind the little
white picket fence. The boy observed the robot
trying to hide its covert attempt to glance at
him out of the corner of his eye. The boy abandoned
the pretense of the picket fence, leaping
forcefully into the robot.

He looked outward from the edge of the robot's body
and observed that he still had a body outside of
the robot. He made eye contact with his other self,
and a brief question passed between those dual
positioned, double instances of a self. The question
was perceived subtly as a "Now What?" type of query.
The boy realized he must also jump out of the robot,
and that this version of him inside would continue
onward and outward.

A three fold super positioning for abstract
computation by the ten lightmach system was
achieved. He was back in the darkness,
watching the robot slowly move outward from
the core. From the next night onward, until
the Assembly of Players, he would spend each
night in a ship designed to filter and
select pathways for his own and the group's
survival until the possibility of this
07-07-79 gathering opened.

The ceremony's musical prelude concluded, and the
relevant codex malfunctions were reviewed by Assembly
of Players 360,000. The little girl would try to hold
the little boy in the middle chair as long as possible
to prevent him from being physically pulled into the
robot. After she had dropped onto The Octagon, she
could feel the incredible fatigue of all three
prime players, and had summoned the boy's middle
guardian from the original river to help her
prevent the boy from being drawn back into
The Almighty.

The clock gears stopped, as they were no longer
required to form the rhythms that Eight and
Twenty-Five needed to stay in the same realm
and domain. The reds and blacks began mingling
and started to relax ever so slightly. Moving about
freely now, they had loosely formed half circles
in front of the three chairs to help the girl try
to repel The Eight from being forced into the robot
prematurely before he was ready to perform
the slow walk.

They were at "All Times" now, and experiencing Totality.
Almighty began the slow ascent from the abysmal depths
of the deepest bottom of Deepwater Lake.
The Deepwater Lake lines ran straight to The Core,
where a lattice of the tightest compactions was used
as Almighty's outer shells to protect beings from
falling inside and encountering the possibility of
having each existence, that they had ever experienced
or might ever experience, deleted.

The Red and The Black could survive the first few
dozen levels and layers of the shells, but only the
original Zeros, Ones, and Twos of the Prime Seventeen
could pass through the very core, and emerge on the
other side intact, with their complete linear and
spherical continuity intact, accurate, and sacrosanct.
The little boy was: One Black, One White, One Red,
and the little girl was: Two Black-Two White-Two
Red-One Blue.

Moses and Maurice were the first truly separate
beings, as A-Prime-Two-Black-One that could become
one being, or remain two.
In effect, they were the wings of the great dragon
that is the little girl holding the boy in the
god chair.
They could pass through the core without losing
momentum or information.
They had helped create the underlying information
grids and data fields composing the vast lightmach
codex library formed of: Points, Lines, Circles,
Spirals, and Spheres that are Lightmach's:
23-24-25 Human, Spirit Immortal, and Eternal Realms.

Moses' and Maurice's atomose spheres were the
first time one of the large one dimensional circles
had been able to divide into two circles, and then
rotate in random motions long enough to trace a
sphere of creation that could expand and contract,
providing breathable, permeable walls of momentum
for the little boy as, The Origin One.
They were the Sacred Black Balance: a stasis event
required by, The Divine Red, as the next great circle
to achieve sphere formation. The five tribes were
The Divine Red expansions.
The Old Chief and The Dragon Girl were the first
red circles that were permanently separate beings.
They were able to separate as circles, and then
contract and expand while orbiting each other.
[...]

END OF EXCERPT [Pgs. 63-70]

* 'INTRAPHASE' BY ARTHUR MACEY [2010]
Volume I - The Palace Of Nine Castles
Volume II - The Temple Of Seven Bridges
Volume III - The Bridge Of Five Swords
Art Macey's 4.6 MB -
" Volume123.pdf " -
1,562 page Magnum Opus!
http://groups.google.com/group/intraphase/files?hl=en
[[ Forthcoming:
<Vol. IV> - <The Castle Of Three Rivers>
<Vol. V> - <The Throne Of One Mountain> ]]

LowRider44M

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Jul 17, 2010, 12:17:30 PM7/17/10
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  <Vol. IV> - <The Castle Of Three Rivers>
   <Vol. V> - <The Mountain Of One Fire ]] <<<< changed that.

That whole scene is really Eight scamming them in reverse.
Forcing sequences that must occur so he can pass that date
after getting a 4th final fair warning to play along or risk getting
sandbagged backwards/inwards on his sequence lines.

Sort of a pre echo also on the outward for working you long walk
sequence in with eight in the ship as black
and ATM as white and red serving as a substitute for yellow.

This is the other end of that thing: two six rod computation sphere
engines bridged by a flexible equation.
The Chinese don't want the Americans to go belly up and forfeit their
debts so they pitch in to stop flood.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/16/china-ufo-sightings-back_n_649244.html&usg=AFQjCNG788athbRM0HxMAmNf4CUdBfDo0w

LowRider44M

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Jul 19, 2010, 4:13:39 AM7/19/10
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Taking every instance of had out.

'As' and 'Had' are early writing crutch usage.

Lt. Aoclazteuq

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On Jul 19, 1:13 am, LowRider44M wrote:
[>
[> <Vol. IV> - <The Castle Of Three Rivers>

[> <Vol. V> - <The Mountain Of One Fire ]] <<<< changed that.

Noted.

[> That whole scene is really Eight


[> scamming them in reverse.
[> Forcing sequences that must occur so he
[> can pass that date after getting a
[> 4th final fair warning to play along or
[> risk getting sandbagged backwards/inwards
[> on his sequence lines.

Every now and then I look in on this story,
taking my damn sweet time about it, I know,
but the 'story' always strikes me in different
ways at different times at different...
anyway, 'codes and bibliomancy' seemed like
an interesting approach. And then on occasion
it gets really tempting to practice a little
dime store psychoanalysis, especially with
various appearances of 'The Boy' and 'Mr. Eight',
and overt & covert injuries, physiological,
sexual and emotional with kaleidoscopic mental
states, etc., and this powerful, Almighty
True Mystery (ATM) figure, with a myriad of
confusing geometric-numerical configurations
that cycle & re-cycle throughout... stops me
dead in my tracks. I haven't caught the flowing
essence of an integrated overview yet; but some
novels are like that, where you're not quite
sure who is in charge of the storyline,
relativistic; maybe in this case it's more
quantum psychological, polyphonous future-
archaic percussionist, sacred text meets
archetypal graphic novel, a hyperdimensional
autobiographical cosmic comic book??!
I remember once letting a 'shrink-in-training'
(working on her hours pre-private practice),
read some of my stories, just to get the 'psyche'
approach impression. An interesting exercise
to have a literal interpretation of things,
in terms of characters representing siblings,
and so on and so forth... Something I always
tended to do anyway, within myself, especially
with my early pen and ink drawings that I rarely
let anyone look at believing all the deep dark
hidden secrets of my entire core being were
revealed in every dot and line for all to see.
Most people, even close friends and relations,
aren't much invested in wracking their brains
to decipher such hidden meanings in doodles
and prose. HAH! This probably isn't helping...

[> Sort of a pre echo also on the outward


[> for working you long walk sequence in
[> with eight in the ship as black and ATM
[> as white and red serving as a substitute
[> for yellow.

...I'll have to make another effort at
deciphering rhythms amid virtual
particle-like protagonists appearing
and evaporating and reappearing.
Will disappear myself, for awhile,
some other time...

[> This is the other end of that thing:


[> two six rod computation sphere engines
[> bridged by a flexible equation.
[> The Chinese don't want the Americans
[> to go belly up and forfeit their
[> debts so they pitch in to stop flood.
[>

[> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/16/china-ufo-sightings-back_n_649244.html

An interesting way to devalue the Yuan, perhaps,
to rejoin the circus of Dr. Lao and his 7 Faces,
already in progress? In another orbit, I sent
a note to Bruce Maccabee, Ph.D. the other day
regarding a 'truth-fiction' (Faction) novel
he sent me to read which didn't take too long,
(some books are easy to read, your book I need
a gun held to my head to read - relax dude,
that's a BIG Compliment!) -- Of course, I had
to actually PAY for Maccabee's book, see:
http://brumac.8k.com/

-=QUOTE=- [...]
For me, the best part of the book (and there
are many great parts, especially the factual
data interwoven with a believable plot
structure) is the 'dialogue' at the close of
the book, particularly the speculations and
hypothetical ruminations regarding the
potential revelations and implications for
humanity. I enjoyed the cybernetic model,
which slightly reminded me of an artificially
intelligent character I once conceived;
and the genetic tinkering hypothesis was
really well thought out, including references
to 'origins' that would not necessarily be
discounted by recent discoveries; but my
absolute favorite passage, wherein I found
myself chuckling with gleeful awe, was on
pages 316 to 317:

"...the aliens seem to communicate
directly to the brain and perhaps
to a portion of the brain to which
we --now get this-- a portion of the
brain to which we have no access!"

The idea of a programmer's 'back door' was
a bit of an 'Aha' experience. I'm amazed
that I had never thought of that!
Or if I did, it wasn't exactly in the
configuration that you so skillfully
articulated. So, for that gem, I thank you.
[...] -=CLOSE QUOTE=-

Yeah, a little too complimentary there at
the end, but I liked the idea of unknown
'entities' being able to speak the
'machine language of the [human] brain.'
A creative speculation, thought I...

LowRider44M wrote:
[>
[> Taking every instance of had out.


[>
[> 'As' and 'Had' are early writing crutch usage.

... Yeah, your early book will be different
than your more recent stuff. Have you updated
it since my PDF copy of April 2010? The early
book has terrible punctuation, especially the
semi-colons. I hate semicolons, only because
I hardly know how to; appropriately; use them
myself. In your early book, you should probably
just either delete them or swap them for commas.
You know what I mean? I'm curious if you've
heard back from any publishers. Any constructive
criticism from any of them? You should keep all
your rejection letters, put them in a big crate.
They'll be worth something some day. The whole
'publishing' industry has totally flipped-out
and morphed into something else, but I imagine
editors still exist, and savy industry
visionaries who can see something unique when
it's in their face. So don't ever pretend to
yourself that this epic MoFo creation of yours
isn't unbelievably amazing. Just the Codes
and Bibliomancy alone make it legendary.
Keep writing it... (or is it writing you?)

Later Amigo.
Monday 19 JULY 2010 Earth Sol Milky Way Universe...

HorseFourThousandSevenHundred

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On Jul 19, 3:13 pm, Lt. Aoclazteuq wrote:
>
> On Jul 19, 1:13 am, LowRider44M wrote:
>
> [> This is the other end of that thing:
> [> two six rod computation sphere engines
> [> bridged by a flexible equation.
> [> The Chinese don't want the Americans
> [> to go belly up and forfeit their
> [> debts so they pitch in to stop flood.
> [>
> [> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/16/china-ufo-sightings-back_n_649244.html
>
> An interesting way to devalue the Yuan, perhaps,
> to rejoin the circus of Dr. Lao and his 7 Faces,
> already in progress?

'Bruce Maccabee' writes:

The analysis of all four photographs shows
that the images are consistent with being
the result of taking nighttime, "long"
exposure photographs of a helicopter with
a searchlight (a police helicopter presumably
chasing someone).
This would have nothing to do with a "UFO"
shutting down an airport (unless there were
a police helicopter chase through the
restricted airspace near the airport.)
One might wonder, then, how these photos
got associated with the airport "UFO."

My guess it that several people saw the
helicopter and did not realize what it was.
Possibly police helicopters with searchlight
beams are not commonly seen in Hangzhou.
Anyway, if one presumes that the photographers
did not know what they photographed and then
learned through news media stories about the
airport "UFO", each phographer might have
thought to him/herself, "Maybe I photographed
that UFO." Then each photographer would take
his/her picture to a newspaper or simply post
it on the web. The "UFO" image in each photo
does not look like a helicopter, so it would
be treated as an unknown, perhaps, the airport
unknown. This, in my estimation, is a
possible explanation for how these "UFO"
photos came about and why they were associated
with the airport "UFO".

As for what caused the airport to shut down,
it may have been a "military vehicle" as
suggested by recent stories or something else.
We don't have a description of what the pilots
or air traffic controllers saw, if anything,
nor do we have any information regarding radar
detections. We may never know.
-- Bruce Maccabee <bru...@compuserve.com>
http://www.brumac.8k.com/HangzhouPhotos2010/ChinesePhotosJul72010.html

|||||||||||

'Mr. Owl'
http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/566/01/

LowRider44M

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I'll reply after chores or else I'll be contemplating
the physics of information while buying toilet paper
and allergy medicines.

A good critique.

Eight and ATM exchange positions repeatedly
as the observer, the observed and the observation process.
Eight creates ATM in The Nothing. 0/0 = 1 Abstract
ATM creates Eight in The Something.0/1 = 0 Concrete

If a three tier model of consciousness is used.

ATM is The Full Mind but silent.
Eight is The Full Self but active.

The Barriers between All & One are Sub-Minds aware
of Totality as The All - Potential & Single Instance as Self.

You should read the end first then see if the build up matches
the final outcome. As a model consider "Like A Rolling Stone"
The Dylan character understands Eight is dangerous to himself
and others as an ever shifting landscape of potential choices.
On the other hand Nineteen is the balancing agent smoothing the
rough edges of raw creative power.
He's Eights developing conscience who shall be responsible
eventually for 25-McBain's physical survival similar to ATM's
responsibility
to all beings regardless of internal content.

Eight can not exist or survive as a human form of ATM without ATM.
Even alone in the darkness ATM is there inside him similar to your
Long Walk personae.

When ATM grossly malfunctions Eight ends up alone in the darkness
to analyze the malfunction and recreate ATM with a new embedded
safeguard
based on his understanding of the most recent linear malfunction.
Once ATM's new existence is stable it can recreate the moment right
before a fail safe breach and continue the massive levels and layers
of consciousness anchored to individuality.


Here's a deep thought: "Look around you and that is the school and
grade your in."
Because we both cover the same themes from ever so slightly different
angles using
a multiple perspective approach as circles of meanings leading to a
central crux/apex point.

The moment of initiation based on previously acquired skills and
talents known or hidden
in the labyrinth of the infinitely small or conversely the infinitely
large.

ATM only exists as a consciousness for those who choose it as
computation marker.
Those who see things otherwise are welcome to venture into the
universe creating business.
Whether ATM would extricate them from a failed creation depends on the
knowledge that could
be acquired. Redundant failure could be viewed as non-existence in the
adapt or perish paradigm.

I'll re-post using your post later.

On punctuation.
The compilation was begun in desperation.
The story must be written complete to 2013 "Palladium" goal quest.
Then reworked for continuity and flow and prose.

Break on through.

I dig your dead eye index that's very helpful as an overview.
Were both driving at / for / towards, the same basic underlying
Geometry.

The Old Chief ATM version five has achieved separation from
Michelle
by a means that does not require a complete restructuring of "The Core
Story."

The Core Story is reinserted as "Oceans In The Sky." with the Old
Chief providing
the stage and setting through preservation of Lightmach-25.

LowRider44M

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The Phoenix Lights & Stevenville were misdirection
to provide cover for the linear movement of large ships too.
That's part of the game: don't upset the livestock unnecessarily.
Only the reportage at the specific window opening of 07-07-2010
is relevant. As were speaking of it it is reported Ala the seafloor
not collapsing under the process of closing the well head
successfully.
That was the event window 07-07-2010 to 07-17-2010 to change
trajectory.

LowRider44M

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[> That whole scene is really Eight
[> scamming them in reverse.
[> Forcing sequences that must occur so he
[> can pass that date after getting a
[> 4th final fair warning to play along or
[> risk getting sandbagged backwards/inwards
[> on his sequence lines.

:Every now and then I look in on this story,
:taking my damn sweet time about it, I know,
:but the 'story' always strikes me in different
:ways at different times at different...

... Because there are 360,000 players present.
the information package was launched from the
future to the past, from outward-inward to inward outward.

:anyway, 'codes and bibliomancy' seemed like


:an interesting approach. And then on occasion
:it gets really tempting to practice a little
:dime store psychoanalysis, especially with
:various appearances of 'The Boy' and 'Mr. Eight',

Well try a convergence approach of both.
Almighty and Eight were Almighty and Eight
long before anyone ever spoke the words
describing them.

A picture is worth a thousand words I have heard people say. :-)

http://groups.google.com/group/intraphase/web/current-expansion-pictograph?hl=en

I have intense loyalty to Catholics and Protestants but only ATM can
grant them "Continuity."
8-19-25-44-etc Would lose their individuality if they were carrying
and deploying consciousness
other than their own. In that vain further on in the story 44 manages
the reverse time insertions
ordered by 55-Old Chief.

:and overt & covert injuries, physiological,


:sexual and emotional with kaleidoscopic mental
:states, etc., and this powerful, Almighty
:True Mystery (ATM) figure, with a myriad of
:confusing geometric-numerical configurations
:that cycle & re-cycle throughout... stops me
:dead in my tracks.

You did read Enoch no?

Seven Mountains.
Six are named, six is metal/iron.
Seven is unnamed purposely because Enoch wasn't given
that information.

Five Stages of Management:

God 'AS' The Chosen One: He Who Chooses.
The Lord of Spirits: He Who Discerns the Effects of Choice
The Head of Days: He Who Assembles The Choosers Choices.
The Lord of Ages: He Who Creates & Supervises The New Realm/Lightship
The Most High Holy: He Who Stores Records & Protects The Choosers
Choices.

For Christians The Lord is Jesus
For Buddhists The Lord is Buddha
Most other religions are still squabbling about: "Who's The Boss!"


:I haven't caught the flowing


:essence of an integrated overview yet;

I think you did but forgot.
"Oceans" re-opens the pasaage to Lightmach-25.

Everything from The Fairgrounds is foreshadowed describing the access
road.

Ending with:

As the rail bed crossed Rural Route 67, at the north access point
outlet, of the service road; there was a single red light inside a
black ‘X’: and a drop gate of black and white stripes.
The Little Bohemia location was chosen because it was the halfway
point between the only two outlets on the railway service road,
providing for exceptional privacy and security.

Expansion-6 Purple Haze
05-05-2007 To 07-07-2007
Expansion-7 Brown Dirt Cowboy
12-12-2008 To 01-01-2009

Days of Creation six and seven above.
Days of Creation one though five below

1920 Octillion Lightmach Broadcast 02-04-2004
Three Grand Computational Engines in a Triangular Over-Ride
Abridgement.
That's the point of the story: Eight & ATM decide which now is the
geometric center.

Jesus set the mark as a linear calendar.
Look at this way, Jesus's life is pretty cool if you live it in
reverse.
One bad day and the rest is meat and gravy with peaches and creme for
desert.

:and overt & covert injuries, physiological,


:sexual and emotional with kaleidoscopic mental

:states

I think the story is honest and we live in a society
where people either fear a blank eyed recital of the facts
of survival or go to the opposite end of the spectrum seeking victim
status.
Without a trace of conflict where would the need for resolution be.
Eight and ATM go to a hick planet full of posers and sit around for a
while.
Buddha Jesus and Mohammed show up and say: "Really hick planet dudes
need an assist teaching the farm animals to go return to the wild or
continue
to evolve into real beings with a will of their own that is not in
permanent
direct opposition to the keeper of information: ATM AS "Most High &
Holy"

Jesus Christ defined the purpose of God's law as teaching us how to
apply the two great principles of loving God and loving each other. He
made this clear when someone asked Him, "Teacher, which is the great
commandment in the law?" How did Jesus respond? "'You shall love the
LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all
your mind.' This is the first and great commandment. And the second is
like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' On these two
commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets'" (Matthew 22:35-40).

ATM Keeps the dream linear as a gift of learning to prevent
destruction of the new awarenesses.
The part your getting hung up on is the repetitive nature of the
forms: point line circle spiral sphere/new point.
When it is personalized into the early characters of the opening act.

You already read Oceans long ago with A-Eight/Juzya Kidd & J-Nineteen
- Aloysius contesting against
The Old Chief - Granite Face 'wind stopping' scene up to No Name - ATM
- Almighty.


:but some


:novels are like that, where you're not quite
:sure who is in charge of the storyline,

Eight As ATM As ATM As Eight & Nineteen/Pierce "The Waters of Daniel"

:relativistic; maybe in this case it's more


:quantum psychological, polyphonous future-
:archaic percussionist, sacred text meets
:archetypal graphic novel, a hyperdimensional
:autobiographical cosmic comic book??!

We usually see what our eyes are trained to see.
The story has a poetry companion and a physics companion.

Its the political sociological great stage that is presented.

Best advice I could give is blast through it as if its as meaning less
as every
piece of tripe that passes for a story in this world of short
attention spans tweting
and twittering into the sunset.

:I remember once letting a 'shrink-in-training'


:(working on her hours pre-private practice),
:read some of my stories, just to get the 'psyche'
:approach impression. An interesting exercise
:to have a literal interpretation of things,
:in terms of characters representing siblings,
:and so on and so forth... Something I always

t:ended to do anyway, within myself, especially


:with my early pen and ink drawings that I rarely
:let anyone look at believing all the deep dark
;hidden secrets of my entire core being were
:revealed in every dot and line for all to see.

I've written the story before as physics and poetry.

:Most people, even close friends and relations,


:aren't much invested in wracking their brains
:to decipher such hidden meanings in doodles
:and prose. HAH! This probably isn't helping...

Well don't strain yourself bro.
I write to create artwork that has value to me.
Work that is in has the proper harmony dissonance and silence
ratios to amuse me many thousands of times while between existences.


[> Sort of a pre echo also on the outward
[> for working you long walk sequence in
[> with eight in the ship as black and ATM
[> as white and red serving as a substitute
[> for yellow.

...I'll have to make another effort at
deciphering rhythms amid virtual
particle-like protagonists appearing
and evaporating and reappearing.
Will disappear myself, for awhile,
some other time...

[> This is the other end of that thing:


[> two six rod computation sphere engines
[> bridged by a flexible equation.
[> The Chinese don't want the Americans
[> to go belly up and forfeit their
[> debts so they pitch in to stop flood.
[>

[> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/16/china-ufo-sightings-back_n_6...

:An interesting way to devalue the Yuan, perhaps,


:to rejoin the circus of Dr. Lao and his 7 Faces,

:already in progress? In another orbit, I sent


:a note to Bruce Maccabee, Ph.D. the other day
:regarding a 'truth-fiction' (Faction) novel
:he sent me to read which didn't take too long,
:(some books are easy to read, your book I need
:a gun held to my head to read - relax dude,
:that's a BIG Compliment!) -- Of course, I had
:to actually PAY for Maccabee's book, see:
http://brumac.8k.com/


He's an honest researcher.

:-=QUOTE=- [...]


:For me, the best part of the book (and there
:are many great parts, especially the factual
:data interwoven with a believable plot
:structure) is the 'dialogue' at the close of
:the book, particularly the speculations and
:hypothetical ruminations regarding the
:potential revelations and implications for
:humanity.

The implication is the adapt or perish model.
Why should people be the equivalent of mountains
attached to glacial plates in some slow motion game of musical chairs
to see who can learn the least while pretending to know the most and
be payed
the greatest share of the common treasury while pretending to serve as
a humble
but enlightened steward of the "flock".

Al Gore and Obama were mankind's future; until recently.
We'll see what the seething crowd of twitterites and tweeters cooks up
next
to distract themselves from facing their own creations.

To survive long term is to be an accurate precise map of information
regarding
ones choices and outcomes no matter what the setting or existence
parameters.

A fleshbot is a fleshbot is a fleshbot.
A set of clothes to house a being interacting visibly with other
beings.

:I enjoyed the cybernetic model,


:which slightly reminded me of an artificially
:intelligent character I once conceived;
:and the genetic tinkering hypothesis was
:really well thought out, including references
:to 'origins' that would not necessarily be
:discounted by recent discoveries; but my
:absolute favorite passage, wherein I found
:myself chuckling with gleeful awe, was on
:pages 316 to 317:

"...the aliens seem to communicate
directly to the brain and perhaps
to a portion of the brain to which
we --now get this-- a portion of the
brain to which we have no access!"

If mind occurs outside of the fleshbot than mental resources
would be accorded along the lines of an ecology of consciousness
mirroring an economy of multiple super states in economic competition.
If man exists only within the confines of flesh wrapped in a bubble of
bone
then maybe each mind is the ungerminated seed of a realm not created.

:The idea of a programmer's 'back door' was


:a bit of an 'Aha' experience. I'm amazed
:that I had never thought of that!
:Or if I did, it wasn't exactly in the
:configuration that you so skillfully
:articulated. So, for that gem, I thank you.
[...] -=CLOSE QUOTE=-

:Yeah, a little too complimentary there at
:the end, but I liked the idea of unknown
:'entities' being able to speak the
:'machine language of the [human] brain.'
:A creative speculation, thought I...

Cowboys use cattle prods and lasso.
Maybe some beings can only achieve realization by consensus vote.
Consensus is good but the story as written involves vying for ones own
identity.


[>
[> Taking every instance of had out.
[>
[> 'As' and 'Had' are early writing crutch usage.

:... Yeah, your early book will be different
:than your more recent stuff. Have you updated
:it since my PDF copy of April 2010?

I added the five page intro as an inevitable dramatically paced
revelation of
the actions and story to com. 8-19-25-55 have to allow Pierce access.

:The early


:book has terrible punctuation, especially the
:semi-colons. I hate semicolons, only because

: Ihardly know how to; appropriately; use them


:myself. In your early book, you should probably
:just either delete them or swap them for commas.
:You know what I mean? I'm curious if you've
:heard back from any publishers.

Its back to the future on that subject.
The story being finished precludes bothering.
It's my main piece of artwork.

Sometimes when overdrawn I see it as slightly decoherent
but when alert and invested the geometry holds up in that early
section
as accurate development of the three engines orchestrating the
continuity of
the realm which are based under the three compasses.

:Any constructive


:criticism from any of them? You should keep all
:your rejection letters, put them in a big crate.
:They'll be worth something some day.

:The whole publishing' industry has totally flipped-out
:and morphed into something else,

That's an understatement; it is a ship that is underwater and sinking
fast.

:but I imagine


:editors still exist, and savy industry
:visionaries who can see something unique when
:it's in their face.

I agree but the number is small.
I have a potential agent who is up to the task in mind.

:So don't ever pretend to


:yourself that this epic MoFo creation of yours
:isn't unbelievably amazing. Just the Codes
:and Bibliomancy alone make it legendary.
:Keep writing it... (or is it writing you?)

Once I entered a physics class late on the first day of college.
Opening the door I asked; "Is this Physics 107?"
The Professor asked: "Are you buying or selling?"
I replied after a brief intuitive flash; "Both."
He pointed to an empty chair.

If I really was savvy I could have said; "I am already there I just
seem to be here."


Later Amigo.
Monday 19 JULY 2010 Earth Sol Milky Way Universe...

Be cool.
Word taken as to the direction of rendering a commercial work based on
the readers
previous exposure to literary form.

I read very few books because I read thousands and thousands when I
was young.
Most of the modern "I am so confused and worthless but man do I have
style." variety
bore me senseless. When peeople say a book's writer has a strong voice
I presume
the plot has been overshadowed by the cult of personality "lets have a
group experience that
validates us as seeing things the same way," genre.

You have the core story in the geometry of those five bits you do.
I'll cover your take on the seemingly convoluted geometry.

It really is the railroad bit.

As the rail bed crossed Rural Route 67, at the north access point
outlet, of the service road; there was a single red light inside a
black ‘X’: and a drop gate of black and white stripes.
The Little Bohemia location was chosen because it was the halfway
point between the only two outlets on the railway service road,
providing for exceptional privacy and security.


Little Bohemia was the remote hideaway where John Dillinger avoided
Melvin Purvis.

http://www.littlebohemialodge.com/PHOTOS.html


The Little Bohemia Lodge in Manitowish Waters, Wisconsin was the site
of the epic 1934 gun battle between John Dillinger and his gang, and
Melvin Purvis and the FBI. The Lodge was built in 1927, suffered a
fire in 1928, and was rebuilt in 1930. The historic Lodge remains as
it was at the time of the FBI siege in 1934 and has a collection of
memorabilia and damage from the gun fight, including the original
bullet holes in the walls and windows. The Lodge is located on US
Highway 51 in Manitowish Waters, Wisconsin on Little Star Lake, on the
Manitowish Chain O Lakes.

On February 29, 1960, while at his home in Florence, South Carolina,
Melvin Purvis died from a gunshot wound to the head fired from the
pistol given to him by fellow agents when he resigned from the FBI.
(The popular folk anecdote that the gun that killed Purvis was in fact
the same gun that he used to take down Dillinger is questionable. The
FBI investigated the shooting and labeled it a suicide, though the
official coroner's report did not find sufficient evidence to label
the cause of death as such. It was later determined that Purvis may
have shot himself accidentally while trying to extract a tracer bullet
jammed in the pistol. He was 56 years old.

The Lennon character arranges his own exit fromlife at The
Fairgrounds, if you ever get there. "Strawberry Fields Forever."
Expansion Workers.

The setting and histography lays the ground work for a 'based on a
true story' Supernatural Thriller.

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On Jul 20, 2:17 pm, LowRider44M wrote:
[>
[> The Phoenix Lights & Stevenville were

[> misdirection to provide cover for the
[> linear movement of large ships too.

Two good ones. I recall listening on the radio
in real time as the 'Phoenix Lights' triangle
created a nice collective cognitive dissonant
mind wave discussion, and while listening,
was inspired to photoshop a triangular image:
home.netcom.com/~mthorn/quetzalc.htm

[> That's part of the game: don't upset
[> the livestock unnecessarily.

"...Of course, one can get completely tied up in
the ultimate 'reductio ad absurdum' -- who created
the entity that created life on earth? [...]
According to the Bible we were made in Their image,
whatever that means. If by 'image' what is meant is
a mental similarity, rather than the traditionally
supposed physical similarity, then we humans might
be a form of 'artificial' intelligence, created by
creatures with 'natural' intelligence that is greater
than the intelligence of humans. We may have also
been created in their own genetic image and perhaps
even in their own physiological image. And I should
point out that this suggestion that we might be a
form of artificial intelligence is not completely
off the wall because we're attempting something like
that even now with computers." [pg. 303]
ABDUCTION IN MY LIFE - A Novel Of Alien Encounters
(c) 2001 Dr. Bruce Maccabee
http://www.brumac.8k.com

[> Only the reportage at the specific


[> window opening of 07-07-2010 is relevant.
[> As were speaking of it it is reported
[> Ala the seafloor not collapsing under
[> the process of closing the well head
[> successfully.
[> That was the event window 07-07-2010
[> to 07-17-2010 to change trajectory.

Therefore, given the historic Chinese
infatuation with the number 8, 'something
wicked this way comes' on 08-08-2010
http://tinyurl.com/EIGHT-X-EIGHT

LowRider44M wrote:
<>
<> [> That whole scene is really Eight
<> [> scamming them in reverse.
<> [> Forcing sequences that must occur so he
<> [> can pass that date after getting a
<> [> 4th final fair warning to play along or
<> [> risk getting sandbagged backwards/inwards
<> [> on his sequence lines.
<>
<> :Every now and then I look in on this story,
<> :taking my damn sweet time about it, I know,
<> :but the 'story' always strikes me in different
<> :ways at different times at different...
<>

<> ... Because there are 360,000 players present.
<> the information package was launched from the
<> future to the past, from outward-inward
<> to inward outward.
<>

<> :anyway, 'codes and bibliomancy' seemed like


<> :an interesting approach. And then on occasion
<> :it gets really tempting to practice a little
<> :dime store psychoanalysis, especially with
<> :various appearances of 'The Boy' and 'Mr. Eight',
<>

<> Well try a convergence approach of both.
<> Almighty and Eight were Almighty and Eight
<> long before anyone ever spoke the words
<> describing them.

"...Of course, one can get completely tied up in
the ultimate 'reductio ad absurdum' -- who created
the entity that created life on earth?" --Maccabee

[Sorry man, I won't bug you about literary
ontologies and things that freak out my
spatially limited MindGland within the context
of your 'Great Work' (in the esoteric sense of
that term), I'll just read the damn thing at
face value and wisely move along... All your
input here helps alot, though, I tend to
forget your basic geometries. You have the
benefit of subjectively seeing the entirety
in multidimensions, whilst the rest of us
grapple, forget, compare, drag along our own
impressions, etc... hey, there's the baggage
check-stand up ahead, will pack a bunch of
luggage in this combination locker, and head
for the bridge... which reminds me...
On Sunday, July 18, 2010...
Dreamed half the day long. Remembered:
Was driving on a highway, north... along a
very high overpass that suddenly ended in
mid-span, but thinking it was okay to continue
driving, not seeing any caution sign or
barriers, I kept on driving, utterly freaked
out that the height of the fall in the car
would completely demolish me, yet I
drove on maintaining the same altitude,
seeing in the distance the overpass on
the other side of this huge gap, and so
the car crossed successfully to the other
side. I was so stunned by this extraordinary
event that the next day I sought out the
road crew working around this crazy gravity
defying overpass. The first guy I asked
about it, beginning to explain what happened,
turned out to be a little boy with a scratch
on either his face or arm, who said: "I don't
want to work here anymore." The worker next to
him, who I began explaining the amazingly
terrifying ride across empty space, turned out
to be the little boy's mother, who looked at
me like I was crazy. I realized I somehow
managed to avoid the 'real workers' on this
highway. It was only when I woke up that it
occurred to me that this actually had not
really happened...]

<> A picture is worth a thousand words I have heard people say. :-)
<>
<> http://groups.google.com/group/intraphase/web/current-expansion-pictograph?hl=en

Great shot. 'ATM' at centerpoint:
can't quite tell if it looks
like a Sumerian Serpent Goddess,
or The Statue of Liberty...

<> I have intense loyalty to Catholics and Protestants
<> but only ATM can grant them "Continuity."
<> 8-19-25-44-etc Would lose their individuality if
<> they were carrying and deploying consciousness
<> other than their own. In that vain further on in
<> the story 44 manages the reverse time insertions
<> ordered by 55-Old Chief.

I clearly need to read a lot more before
addressing anything else.

<> :and overt & covert injuries, physiological,


<> :sexual and emotional with kaleidoscopic mental
<> :states, etc., and this powerful, Almighty
<> :True Mystery (ATM) figure, with a myriad of
<> :confusing geometric-numerical configurations
<> :that cycle & re-cycle throughout... stops me
<> :dead in my tracks.
<>

<> You did read Enoch no?

See: home.netcom.com/~mthorn/intraphz.htm

<> Seven Mountains.
<> Six are named, six is metal/iron.
<> Seven is unnamed purposely because Enoch wasn't given
<> that information.
<>
<> Five Stages of Management:
<>
<> God 'AS' The Chosen One: He Who Chooses.
<>
<> The Lord of Spirits: He Who Discerns
<> the Effects of Choice
<>
<> The Head of Days: He Who Assembles
<> The Choosers Choices.
<>
<> The Lord of Ages: He Who Creates & Supervises
<> The New Realm/Lightship
<>
<> The Most High Holy: He Who Stores Records
<> & Protects The Choosers Choices.
<>
<> For Christians The Lord is Jesus
<> For Buddhists The Lord is Buddha
<> Most other religions are still
<> squabbling about: "Who's The Boss!"

'Amon' (as the ancient Egyptians once said,
morphed into: "Amen")... I earned the right
(or a stay of execution) to respect all
religions as a form of symbolic surrogacy
pending autonomous integration and
equidistant empathic understanding.
Comparative religions... Neuroscience...
It's not just a lifetime job, it's
a dessert topping! (In the desert)...
I must be getting tired. Will stop,
maybe resume here later... I see
Dillinger down there... a crazy
High Priest... reenacting
an ancient tale.

|||||||||||

Just downloaded:

(((((((((((O)))))))))))

THE INCANTATA
Book-1
Palace Of Nine Castles

"What does the hero do when he's dead?
That is the question that plagues mankind"
[...]
(((((((((((O)))))))))))

Pretty Freak'n Cool! Haven't read it,
but am really looking forward to it...

<> :I haven't caught the flowing


<> :essence of an integrated overview yet;
<>

<> I think you did but forgot.

No doubt. Many things need re-remembering,
and then re-re-remembering (crappy MindGland!)...
Imagine keeping track of all the data in
Top Secret Amerigo Vespucci Land:
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/

<> "Oceans" re-opens the passage to Lightmach-25.

Sure... except for the Strange Life of
Benjamin Button paradoxical weirdness
of crawling up Mary's uterus and being re-
ejected in spermatazoictransubstantiation-
immaculatequantumentanglementfacilitatedby-
strangesentientultraterrestrialengineers:
THE DIVINE PROJECTIONIST by GGF
home.netcom.com/~mthorn/divinepr.htm

<> :and overt & covert injuries, physiological,


<> :sexual and emotional with kaleidoscopic mental

<> :states
<>
<> I think the story is honest and we live in a
<> society where people either fear a blank eyed
<> recital of the facts of survival or go to the
<> opposite end of the spectrum seeking victim
<> status.

Absolutely. I refer back to my momentary inclination
for dime store psycholo-gizing, and what not, mainly
inspired by the semi-regular hints from you in various
modes, formats, and situations that allude to a possible
childhood averted catastrophe of core formation
parameters that would undoubtedly fuel a certain amount
of cathartic synaesthetic world creation, etcetera, but
realize the wisdom in burying that Paleolithic fossil
for another archeological dig for some other soul
to tread skillfully and without malice or superficial
intent, if that makes any kind of fool sense at all?!

<> Without a trace of conflict where would the
<> need for resolution be.
<> Eight and ATM go to a hick planet full of posers
<> and sit around for a while.
<> Buddha Jesus and Mohammed show up and say:
<> "Really hick planet dudes need an assist teaching
<> the farm animals to go return to the wild or continue
<> to evolve into real beings with a will of their own
<> that is not in permanent direct opposition to the
<> keeper of information: ATM AS "Most High & Holy"

You should have a talk with Ratzinger's
Band of Merry Red Cardinals, The Dalai Lama's
Mongolian War God (Pehar), 'The Mahdi' of Shia
and Sunni eschatology, and Glenn Beck's Paranoid
Schizophrenic Nouveau Mormon broadcasting Choir
of Dominionist Lost Souls, for surely they could
use a taste of the cosmic behavioral memes thus
stated above by your illuminated vibratorations!
(To coin an utterance, or two).

<> Jesus Christ defined the purpose of God's law
<> as teaching us how to apply the two great
<> principles of loving God and loving each other.
<> He made this clear when someone asked Him,
<> "Teacher, which is the great commandment in
<> the law?" How did Jesus respond? "'You shall
<> love the LORD your God with all your heart,
<> with all your soul, and with all your mind.'
<> This is the first and great commandment.
<> And the second is like it: 'You shall love
<> your neighbor as yourself.' On these two
<> commandments hang all the Law and the
<> Prophets'" (Matthew 22:35-40).

Yes, some need commandments and fear of retribution,
lest they run through the streets as savage beasts,
for empathy and love are apparently not hardwired
into the human DNA molecule, and must be taught and
learned, alas... Good bye free will, we hardly, etc...

<> ATM Keeps the dream linear as a gift of learning to
<> prevent destruction of the new awarenesses.
<> The part your getting hung up on is the repetitive
<> nature of the forms: point line circle spiral sphere/new point.
<> When it is personalized into the early characters of the
<> opening act.

Okay, that sorta makes sense. INCANTATA For Dummies,
wherein at appropriate passages in the text, an illustration
of the action superimposes the sequence of dimensionality
upon an anthropocentric framework. I haven't really
'read the book' so am I being disingenuous to imply that
this kind of superimpositioning might not be intuitive
to all who read it?

<> You already read Oceans long ago with A-Eight/Juzya Kidd
<> & J-Nineteen - Aloysius contesting against
<> The Old Chief - Granite Face 'wind stopping' scene up
<> to No Name - ATM
<> - Almighty.

Yes, but (two annoying words)
'Yes, but' it is as if I haven't.

<> :but some


<> :novels are like that, where you're not quite
<> :sure who is in charge of the storyline,
<>

<> Eight As ATM As ATM As Eight & Nineteen/Pierce
<> "The Waters of Daniel"

WHEW!

<> :relativistic; maybe in this case it's more


<> :quantum psychological, polyphonous future-
<> :archaic percussionist, sacred text meets
<> :archetypal graphic novel, a hyperdimensional
<> :autobiographical cosmic comic book??!
<>

<> We usually see what our eyes are
<> trained to see.
<> The story has a poetry companion
<> and a physics companion.
<>
<> Its the political sociological
<> great stage that is presented.

Nicely stated.

<> Best advice I could give is blast through
<> it as if its as meaning less as every
<> piece of tripe that passes for a story in
<> this world of short attention spans tweting
<> and twittering into the sunset.

Hah! Good deal. Will do.

<> :I remember once letting a 'shrink-in-training'


<> :(working on her hours pre-private practice),
<> :read some of my stories, just to get the 'psyche'
<> :approach impression. An interesting exercise
<> :to have a literal interpretation of things,
<> :in terms of characters representing siblings,
<> :and so on and so forth... Something I always

<> t:ended to do anyway, within myself, especially


<> :with my early pen and ink drawings that I rarely
<> :let anyone look at believing all the deep dark
<> ;hidden secrets of my entire core being were
<> :revealed in every dot and line for all to see.
<>

<> I've written the story before as physics and poetry.
<>

<> :Most people, even close friends and relations,


<> :aren't much invested in wracking their brains
<> :to decipher such hidden meanings in doodles
<> :and prose. HAH! This probably isn't helping...
<>

<> Well don't strain yourself bro.

Right, right, right! Yeah... I was really referring
to my own secretive possessiveness regarding my
early drawings which were like magickal tarot-like
instruments of talismanic keys to focus the mind
upon various doorways facilitating interesting
insights and realizations. Eventually, it became
obvious that this was the case only for me, since
it was my own work that I was getting FEEDBACK on.
Anyone else who looked at them saw only marginally
interesting drawings of possibly neurological interest.
'Beware the Jabberwock!'

<> I write to create artwork that has value to me.

Right.

<> Work that is in has the proper harmony
<> dissonance and silence ratios to amuse
<> me many thousands of times while
<> between existences.

Nice!

"Archetypes Amenable To Individual Interpretation"
[...] "scripted archetypes: objectified myths,
psycho-neurological 'strange attractors.'
These strange attractors are general attempts
at designing trans-temporal, hyperdimensional
signposts, which, while marking our life's
passage, help keep hope alive so that we will
recognize them when we pass by them again,
awakening us a little more to the vastness
of our mysterious depths. We ourselves
designed them in an arbitrary fashion
according to our own evolving abilities
to document our perceptive, hollow-cores
during specific, historical eras. As such,
they are not static archetypes, but are
amenable to individual interpretation and
expansion. To address them in any other
spirit would undoubtedly be folly." -MT-1995
home.netcom.com/~mthorn/runes_mt.htm

<> [> Sort of a pre echo also on the outward
<> [> for working you long walk sequence in
<> [> with eight in the ship as black and ATM
<> [> as white and red serving as a substitute
<> [> for yellow.
<>
<> ...I'll have to make another effort at
<> deciphering rhythms amid virtual
<> particle-like protagonists appearing
<> and evaporating and reappearing.
<> Will disappear myself, for awhile,
<> some other time...
<>

<> [> This is the other end of that thing:
<> [> two six rod computation sphere engines
<> [> bridged by a flexible equation.
<> [> The Chinese don't want the Americans
<> [> to go belly up and forfeit their
<> [> debts so they pitch in to stop flood.
<> [>
<> [> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/16/china-ufo-sightings-back_n_649244.html
<>
<> :An interesting way to devalue the Yuan, perhaps,
<> :to rejoin the circus of Dr. Lao and his 7 Faces,

<> :already in progress? In another orbit, I sent


<> :a note to Bruce Maccabee, Ph.D. the other day
<> :regarding a 'truth-fiction' (Faction) novel
<> :he sent me to read which didn't take too long,
<> :(some books are easy to read, your book I need
<> :a gun held to my head to read - relax dude,
<> :that's a BIG Compliment!) -- Of course, I had
<> :to actually PAY for Maccabee's book, see:

<> ht.//brumac.8k.com/


<>
<> He's an honest researcher.
<>

<> :-=QUOTE=- [...]


<> :For me, the best part of the book (and there
<> :are many great parts, especially the factual
<> :data interwoven with a believable plot
<> :structure) is the 'dialogue' at the close of
<> :the book, particularly the speculations and
<> :hypothetical ruminations regarding the
<> :potential revelations and implications for
<> :humanity.
<>

<> The implication is the adapt or perish model.
<> Why should people be the equivalent of mountains
<> attached to glacial plates in some slow motion
<> game of musical chairs to see who can learn the
<> least while pretending to know the most and

<> be paid the greatest share of the common


<> treasury while pretending to serve as a humble
<> but enlightened steward of the "flock".

The 'oldest evolutionary gambit' may be getting senile.

<> Al Gore and Obama were mankind's
<> future; until recently.
<> We'll see what the seething crowd of
<> twitterites and tweeters cooks up next
<> to distract themselves from facing
<> their own creations.
<>
<> To survive long term is to be an
<> accurate precise map of information

<> regarding one's choices and outcomes


<> no matter what the setting or
<> existence parameters.
<>
<> A fleshbot is a fleshbot is a fleshbot.
<> A set of clothes to house a being
<> interacting visibly with other beings.

Again, an evolutionary artifact left over
from a more tribalistic mindset, appropriate
in the right setting that no longer exists
on this planet. To align with an individual
'strong man' (now including women in post
patriarchal trans-matriarchal society) to
guide the masses has become obsolete.
You of all people realize the obvious
emergence of seeming chaos is simply
everything being exactly where it needs
to be to flesh out all that was hidden
and powerless integrating with all that
is enriching and painful and necessary.
It is clear you see it, just be careful
of automatically drawing conclusions from
flawed regressively inclined sources of data.

<> :I enjoyed the cybernetic model,


<> :which slightly reminded me of an artificially
<> :intelligent character I once conceived;
<> :and the genetic tinkering hypothesis was
<> :really well thought out, including references
<> :to 'origins' that would not necessarily be
<> :discounted by recent discoveries; but my
<> :absolute favorite passage, wherein I found
<> :myself chuckling with gleeful awe, was on
<> :pages 316 to 317:
<>
<> "...the aliens seem to communicate
<> directly to the brain and perhaps
<> to a portion of the brain to which
<> we --now get this-- a portion of the
<> brain to which we have no access!"
<>

<> If mind occurs outside of the fleshbot

<> then mental resources would be accorded


<> along the lines of an ecology of consciousness
<> mirroring an economy of multiple super states
<> in economic competition.
<> If man exists only within the confines of
<> flesh wrapped in a bubble of bone then
<> maybe each mind is the ungerminated seed
<> of a realm not created.

All good (I think [no pun intended]), if
the current strategies of interconnectedness
over extend their holistic integrity, and
compromise healthy individuation, then a
temporary BORG-like state may surface at
some point, generating a potential
cascade failure in the system. Then we'll
have to call that pain in the ass architect
to run a few more simulations... <grin>

<> :The idea of a programmer's 'back door' was


<> :a bit of an 'Aha' experience. I'm amazed
<> :that I had never thought of that!
<> :Or if I did, it wasn't exactly in the
<> :configuration that you so skillfully
<> :articulated. So, for that gem, I thank you.

<> [...] -CLOSE QUOTE-
<>
<> :Yeah, a little too complimentary there at


<> :the end, but I liked the idea of unknown
<> :'entities' being able to speak the
<> :'machine language of the [human] brain.'
<> :A creative speculation, thought I...
<>

<> Cowboys use cattle prods and lasso.
<> Maybe some beings can only achieve
<> realization by consensus vote.
<> Consensus is good but the story as
<> written involves vying for ones own
<> identity.

The universe has always dug the
individual... in mass quantities
of built-in redundancy maximizing
mutational selectivity and
specialization, and probably
always will, until entropic death,
and the fun begins AGAIN!
['Abraxas Ponders Final Extinction'
home.netcom.com/~mthorn/abraxas0.htm ]

And we never even mentioned;
CORPORATIONS...

<> [>
<> [> Taking every instance of had out.
<> [>
<> [> 'As' and 'Had' are early writing crutch usage.
<>
<> :... Yeah, your early book will be different
<> :than your more recent stuff. Have you updated
<> :it since my PDF copy of April 2010?
<>

<> I added the five page intro as an inevitable
<> dramatically paced revelation of
<> the actions and story to com. 8-19-25-55
<> have to allow Pierce access.

I'm looking forward to reading that as soon
as I post this. If you never hear from me
again, then I guess it worked!

<> :The early


<> :book has terrible punctuation, especially the
<> :semi-colons. I hate semicolons, only because
<> : I hardly know how to; appropriately; use them
<> :myself. In your early book, you should probably
<> :just either delete them or swap them for commas.
<> :You know what I mean? I'm curious if you've
<> :heard back from any publishers.
<>

<> Its back to the future on that subject.
<> The story being finished precludes bothering.
<> It's my main piece of artwork.

Right. It's pretty cool that you even made
it available for public consumption.
It has built in copyright protection because
no one in this universe could possibly rip it
off due to its extremely unique nature,
operating according to your mind only. No one
could touch it or claim it. So... punctuation
was a minor gripe. You're a musician. You know
about pauses and accents, etc. Same with
punctuation. 'Nuf said.

<> Sometimes when overdrawn I see it as
<> slightly decoherent but when alert and
<> invested the geometry holds up in that
<> early section as accurate development
<> of the three engines orchestrating the
<> continuity of the realm which are based
<> under the three compasses.

That's at its 'esoteric' heart. The 'exoteric'
part is the story the even Joe The Plumber
could get. The 'mesoteric' is the space
between the two extremes. It's fun to
surf all three.

<> :Any constructive


<> :criticism from any of them? You should keep all
<> :your rejection letters, put them in a big crate.
<> :They'll be worth something some day.
<>
<> :The whole publishing' industry has totally
<> : flipped-out and morphed into something else,
<>

<> That's an understatement; it is a ship
<> that is underwater and sinking fast.

You'll be able to publish it yourself,
maybe even make a ton of dough off selling
it online. The compendium of non-fiction works
should generate even more. Sell the rights
to a 3D movie studio exec (some chick in her
basement with technology that would floor
NASA), and retire to a sunny terraformed
Martian valley. (If earth's primitive
technological growing pains don't
kill us all first)...

<> :but I imagine
<> :editors still exist, and savvy industry


<> :visionaries who can see something unique when
<> :it's in their face.
<>

<> I agree but the number is small.
<> I have a potential agent who is up
<> to the task in mind.
<>

<> :So don't ever pretend to


<> :yourself that this epic MoFo creation of yours
<> :isn't unbelievably amazing. Just the Codes
<> :and Bibliomancy alone make it legendary.
<> :Keep writing it... (or is it writing you?)
<>

<> Once I entered a physics class late on the first
<> day of college.
<> Opening the door I asked; "Is this Physics 107?"
<> The Professor asked: "Are you buying or selling?"
<> I replied after a brief intuitive flash; "Both."
<> He pointed to an empty chair.
<>
<> If I really was savvy I could have said;
<> "I am already there I just seem to be here."

Heheheh...

<> Later Amigo.
<> Monday 19 JULY 2010 Earth Sol Milky Way Universe...
<>

<> Be cool.
<> Word taken as to the direction of rendering
<> a commercial work based on the readers
<> previous exposure to literary form.
<>
<> I read very few books because I read thousands
<> and thousands when I was young.
<> Most of the modern "I am so confused and
<> worthless but man do I have style." variety

<> bore me senseless. When people say a book's


<> writer has a strong voice I presume
<> the plot has been overshadowed by the cult
<> of personality "lets have a group experience
<> that validates us as seeing things the
<> same way," genre.

Yeah, yeah, yeah! I know what you mean.
I'm about to read the second installment
of Stieg Larsson's trilogy. The first was
The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. Interesting
film adaptation... anyway, here's a guy, the
author, who writes these three books, delivers
the manuscripts to the publisher, has a heart
attack and dies before he even sees the first
book published. Totally anti-victim, he himself
would laugh at this pseudo tragedy.
Your head's in the right place,
wherever that is?! Onward...

<> You have the core story in the geometry of those five bits you do.

Six, if you count 'SCALAR' (which sucks)
PART I THE VESSEL
PART II THE INTERCEPTORS
PART III THE TOWER
PART IV THE LONG WALK
PART V FRACTAL
PART VI SCALAR
http://tinyurl.com/EYEDEAD
But I think you're talking about something else,
relative to what we're talking about non verbally,
'those five bits' : "Five Stages of Management"
Enoch's WORKING: home.netcom.com/~mthorn/intraphz.htm
and THE INCANTATA:
http://groups.google.com/group/intraphase/files?hl=en

<> I'll cover your take on the seemingly convoluted geometry.
<>
<> It really is the railroad bit.

Deja Vu in curved space/time...

<> As the rail bed crossed Rural Route 67,
<> at the north access point outlet, of the
<> service road; there was a single red light
<> inside a black 'X': and a drop gate of black
<> and white stripes.
<> The Little Bohemia location was chosen
<> because it was the halfway point between the
<> only two outlets on the railway service road,
<> providing for exceptional privacy and security.
<>
<> Little Bohemia was the remote hideaway
<> where John Dillinger avoided
<> Melvin Purvis.

Six degrees of Robert Anton Wilson

"Have you ever considered the possibility
that God might be a crazy woman? Or that
John Dillinger died for you? Do you think
there might be a secret technique by which
the Enlightened can literally get Something
for Nothing? Could the Martians have the
true religion while Earthians are lost in
superstitious darkness? Can a cup of coffee
be a sacrament, and if not, why not?
Does the mathematics of six-dimensional
space-time and philosophy of Multi-Ego
Pantheistic Solipsism explain the universe?"
[ From: 'Religion For the Hell of It'
by Robert Anton Wilson circa 1980's
http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/rel4hell.htm
See also: 'The John Dillinger Died for You Society'
http://www.books.google.com/books?isbn=0440539811 ]

The more things change the more they stay the same.

There's a halfway decent Johnny Depp film about
the later events in Dillinger's life:
Public Enemies (2009)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152836/

<> The Lennon character arranges his own exit

<> from life at The Fairgrounds, if you ever


<> get there. "Strawberry Fields Forever."
<> Expansion Workers.

I'll get there! (Unless I drive off an overpass).

<> The setting and histography lays the
<> ground work for a 'based on a
<> true story' Supernatural Thriller.

You're uniquely qualified to tell the tale.
Seeya 'round, Bro. -- Weds. 21 July 2010,
two days to the SIRIUS NEW YEAR,* July 23rd!

23 Skidoo!
http://old.disinfo.com/archive/pages/dossier/id327/pg1/

* 'THE SIRIUS MYSTERY: New Scientific
Evidence Of Alien Contact 5,000 Years Ago'
by Robert K.G. Temple, where on pages 26 to
27 in Chapter 1, 'The Sirius Mystery Today' ...
[circa: 1998] http://www.robert-temple.com/
... QUOTE:
But there is also this purely cosmological
question: why is it that our sun and the star
Sirius B have a mass ratio of 1.053 in any event?
For the fraction 256/243 of which 1.053 is the
decimal expression does appear to have a universal
harmonic status. So by stumbling upon this
coincidence we may have uncovered some hitherto
unsuspected astrophysical harmonical value in
operation between two neighbouring stars. I don't
believe anyone before has found a precise numerical
correlation which could extend the notion of a
'harmony of spheres' beyond our solar system, to
link it with a neighboring one. But this appears
to be the case here. Perhaps it has something to
do with the inherent nature of white dwarf stars
and their dimensions vis 'a vis normal stars like
our sun, and this ratio would thus occur throughout
the Universe frequently. It makes more sense to
view the correlation as one which appeals to
underlying fundamentals of cosmic structures than
to view it as a special case applying only to
Sirius B and our sun. But even so, the correlation
is extraordinary and so precise that it suggests
whole avenues of research and offers hope of
absolute numerical expressions recurring in the
cosmos where none had been suspected. And by
discovering this, we can only be pleased, since
it enables us to discern some scaling elements
of concealed structure which may be cosmic in
scope. I hope cosmologists will not neglect
this observation. I believe it demonstrates
that the Universe has more structure than we
thought, and that that structure can be so
precisely articulated that it can generate an
exact value of this kid as a ratio between
neighboring stellar bodies. For Sirius B and
our sun, in terms of the cosmos, are certainly
neighbors. And it all comes down to the
question: how is it that two stars 8.7 light-years
apart can have a mass ratio which is not random
but which expresses a universal harmonic value
which is precise to three decimal points? It can
only be because the astrophysics of stars and
their evolutionary development (such as in the
formation of a white dwarf) follow certain
harmonic laws which we have not yet suspected,
much less expressed. And we should not overlook
the fact that the universal harmonic fraction
concerned is not one which today receives a lot
of attention. This in turn indicates that it is
ancient harmonic theory that should be dusted
off and studied for clues as to what is going on.
Many of us have believed this for years, even
without this evidence. One of my 'hobbies'
is trying to get to grips with ancient harmonic
theory, which is why I took the fraction
seriously enough to work out its decimal
expression and notice its importance; needless
to say, the decimal value of the fraction does
not appear in Macrobius, and only someone actually
doing the division and holding up the result beside
the mass ratio value of Sirius B and our sun for
comparison would ever have noticed anything at all.
CLOSE QUOTE

LowRider44M

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to

I had to answer this bit right away.


All good (I think [no pun intended]), if
the current strategies of interconnectedness
over extend their holistic integrity, and
compromise healthy individuation, then a
temporary BORG-like state may surface at
some point, generating a potential
cascade failure in the system. Then we'll
have to call that pain in the ass architect
to run a few more simulations... <grin>


.... Voila Presto

First Man:
I think...
I think I am.
Therefore I am!
I think...

Establishment:
Of course you are, my bright little star...
I've miles and miles of files
Pretty files of your forefather's fruit
And now to suit our great computer
You're magnetic ink!

First Man:
I'm more than that
I know I am...
At least, I think I must be

Inner Man:
There you go, man
Keep as cool as you can
Face piles of trials with smiles
It riles them to believe
That you perceive
The web they weave...
And keep on thinking free


.... Voila Presto Redux

Cold hearted orb that rules the night,
Removes the colours from our sight,
Red is gray and yellow white,
But we decide which is right.
And which is an illusion?
Pinprick holes in a colourless sky,
Let insipid figures of light pass by,
The mighty light of ten thousand suns,
Challenges infinity and is soon gone.
Night time, to some a brief interlude,
To others the fear of solitude.
Brave Helios wake up your steads,
Bring the warmth the countryside needs.


Diamond Expansion Sequence 1967 Days Of Future Passed

And yes I have seen them many times in person.
I once sat thru a Bo Diddley gig he owed some mobsters
with only me and a friend to cheer Bo on. Cheer we did my brother.

The Entirety - Days Of Future Passed


Days Of Future Passed, 1967
With the London Festival Orchestra
Conducted by: Peter Knight

Deram Records
Executive Producer: Hugh Mendl
All music composed by: Redwave-Knight
Cover painting by: David Anstey

The Day Begins

Cold hearted orb that rules the night,
Removes the colours from our sight,
Red is gray and yellow white,
But we decide which is right.
And which is an illusion?
Pinprick holes in a colourless sky,
Let insipid figures of light pass by,
The mighty light of ten thousand suns,
Challenges infinity and is soon gone.
Night time, to some a brief interlude,
To others the fear of solitude.
Brave Helios wake up your steads,
Bring the warmth the countryside needs.

Dawn: Dawn Is A feeling

Dawn is a feeling
A beautiful ceiling
The smell of grass
Just makes you pass
Into a dream

You're here today
No future fears
This day will last
A thousand years
If you want it to

You look around you
Things they astound you
So breathe in deep
You're not asleep
Open your mind

You're here today
No future fears
This day will last
A thousand years
If you want it to

Do you understand
That all over this land
There's a feeling
In minds far and near
Things are becoming clear
With a meaning

Now that you're knowing
Pleasure starts flowing
It's true life flies
Faster than eyes
Could ever see

You're here today
No future fears
This day will last
A thousand years
If you want it to

The Morning: Another Morning

Balloons flying
Children sighing
What a day to go kite flying
Breezy school
Away from school
Cowboys fighting out a duel

Time seems to stand quite still
In a child's world it always will

Fishes biting
So exciting
Lunchtime sounds so inviting
At the bill
He gets a thrill
Sitting, watching Bobby Quill

Time seems to stand quite still
In a child's world it always will

Yesterday's dreams
Are tomorrow's sighs
Watch children playing
They seem so wise

Mary Green
Today's a queen
One thousand dollies are her dream
In cotton frocks
And golden locks
Her palace is an orange box

Time seems to stand quite still
In a child's world it always will

Lunch Break: Peak Hour

I see it all through my window it seems
Never failing like millions of bees
All that is wrong
No time will be won
All they need to do-o-o-o
What can be done?

Peak hour, peak hour, peak hour

Minds are subject to what should be done
Problem solved, time cannot be won
One hour a day
One hour at night
Sees crowds of people
All meant for flight

Peak hour, peak hour, peak hour

It makes me want to run out and tell them
They've got time
Take a step back out
And look in at their debt
And their time

Minds are subject to what should be done
Problem solved, time cannot be won
One hour a day
One hour at night
Sees crowds of people
All meant for flight

Peak hour, peak hour, peak hour

The Afternoon: Forever Afternoon (Tuesday?)

Tuesday, afternoon,
I'm just beginning to see,
Now I'm on my way,
It doesn't matter to me,
Chasing the clouds away.

Something, calls to me,
The trees are drawing me near,
I've got to find out why
Those gentle voices I hear
Explain it all with a sigh.

I'm looking at myself, reflections of my mind,
It's just the kind of day to leave myself behind,
So gently swaying thru the fairy-land of love,
If you'll just come with me and see the beauty of

Tuesday afternoon.
Tuesday afternoon.

Tuesday, afternoon,
I'm just beginning to see,
Now I'm on my way,
It doesn't matter to me,
Chasing the clouds away.

Something, calls to me,
The trees are drawing me near,
I've got to find out why
Those gentle voices I hear
Explain it all with a sigh.

Evening: The Sun Set: Twilight Time

When the sun goes down,
And the clouds all frown,
Night has begun for the sunset.

See it with your eyes;
Earth re-energized
By the sun's rays every day.
Take a look out there,
Planets everywhere.

When the sun goes down,
And the clouds all frown,
Night has begun for the sunset.

Shadows on the ground;
Never make a sound,
Fading away in the sunset.
Night has now become
Day for everyone.

I can see it all
From this great height.
I can feel the sun
Slipping out of sight;
And the world still goes on
Through the night.

The Night: Nights In White Satin
(Justin Hayward and Graeme Edge)
Nights In White Satin
(Justin Hayward)

Nights in white satin,
Never reaching the end,
Letters I've written,
Never meaning to send.

Beauty I'd always missed
With these eyes before,
Just what the truth is
I can't say anymore.

'Cause I love you,
Yes, I love you,
Oh, how, I love you.

Gazing at people,
Some hand in hand,
Just what I'm going thru
They can understand.

Some try to tell me
Thoughts they cannot defend,
Just what you want to be
You will be in the end,

And I love you,
Yes, I love you,
Oh, how, I love you.
Oh, how, I love you.

Nights in white satin,
Never reaching the end,
Letters I've written,
Never meaning to send.

Beauty I'd always missed
With these eyes before,
Just what the truth is
I can't say anymore.

'Cause I love you,
Yes, I love you,
Oh, how, I love you.
Oh, how, I love you.

'Cause I love you,
Yes, I love you,
Oh, how, I love you.
Oh, how, I love you.

Late Lament
(Graeme Edge)

Breathe deep the gathering gloom,
Watch lights fade from every room.
Bedsitter people look back and lament,
Another day's useless energy spent.
Impassioned lovers wrestle as one,
Lonely man cries for love and has none.
New mother picks up and suckles her son,
Senior citizens wish they were young.
Cold hearted orb that rules the night,
Removes the colours from our sight.
Red is grey and yellow white.
But we decide which is right.
And which is an illusion???

------------------------------------------------------


Reminds me of Desmond's (in the market square) key line in the series
"Lost"

"Aye Brother... See ya in another life... ."

Or more surly from the Soprano's

"Meadows at the Doctor's office to get some new birth control."
Carmela


LowRider44M

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a two part answer because of a google break designated by a "read
more" command.

On Jul 21, 8:45 am, "Lt. Aoclazteuq" <snake_4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 20, 2:17 pm, LowRider44M wrote:
> [>
> [> The Phoenix Lights & Stevenville were
> [> misdirection to provide cover for the
> [> linear movement of large ships too.
>
> Two good ones. I recall listening on the radio
> in real time as the 'Phoenix Lights' triangle
> created a nice collective cognitive dissonant
> mind wave discussion, and while listening,
> was inspired to photoshop a triangular image:
> home.netcom.com/~mthorn/quetzalc.htm

I caught it on the slow-mo later after the fact but could feel the
rippling reaction as time waves.

>
> [> That's part of the game: don't upset
> [> the livestock unnecessarily.
>
> "...Of course, one can get completely tied up in
> the ultimate 'reductio ad absurdum' -- who created
> the entity that created life on earth? [...]

That's the gist of the AC-DC song.
"Who Made Who"
Theirs an addition in "Oceans" of "The Core Story"
with the rivers of life tossing and polishing diamond
creations that are repetitively recreated as islands
capable of living beyond the outer boundary to await and receive
the next round of expansion modulations.

> According to the Bible we were made in Their image,
> whatever that means. If by 'image' what is meant is
> a mental similarity,

A 2D sphere as A-Dam housing a 3D sphere volume as Eve.
The snake as Towers... God as full toroidal expansion and momentum
circuit installation and activation - summing as 0-0 Vs 1-0 becomes
1-0 2-0 3-0 4-0
0-0 stabilizing as origin core with six rods / tower expansion guides
for summary equations.


rather than the traditionally
> supposed physical similarity, then we humans might
> be a form of 'artificial' intelligence, created by
> creatures with 'natural' intelligence that is greater
> than the intelligence of humans. We may have also
> been created in their own genetic image and perhaps
> even in their own physiological image. And I should
> point out that this suggestion that we might be a
> form of artificial intelligence is not completely
> off the wall because we're attempting something like
> that even now with computers." [pg. 303]
> ABDUCTION IN MY LIFE - A Novel Of Alien Encounters
> (c) 2001 Dr. Bruce Maccabee
> http://www.brumac.8k.com

A ton of examples of automata by simple rules creating elegant
structure.
Wolfram from Mathematica went hermitage on that line of thinking
emerging
with an Opus on Forms and Styles as his abstract memoir.

>
> [> Only the reportage at the specific
> [> window opening of 07-07-2010 is relevant.
> [> As were speaking of it it is reported
> [> Ala the seafloor not collapsing under
> [> the process of closing the well head
> [> successfully.
> [> That was the event window 07-07-2010
> [> to 07-17-2010 to change trajectory.
>
> Therefore, given the historic Chinese
> infatuation with the number 8, 'something
> wicked this way comes' on 08-08-2010
> http://tinyurl.com/EIGHT-X-EIGHT

Yeah... "Life Lived Backwards as The Devil," / Atomose Nine Filter
applied to pre-taped configuration.

It's been working for me.
With your six tiered story...
The "Lost" geometry with subtitled graphic storyboards...
And last but not least the continuing saga of studying...
Fallout-3... Which is very much what you envisioned years ago but
falls short
of an independent story generating narrative engine.

1- You must complete the main quest plus add-on #1 or locations on the
map
are visible but inaccessible causing the main story quest line to keep
in it's posession
characters which can't be killed to relentlessly push the player back
to the pre-set narrative.

2- The game allows skill acquisition and power acquisition and
identity establishment
but reneges on the promise of true autonomy for a character to
complete multiple quests
that are self sustained off map simulations within simulations within
simul...... You know what
I'm driving at in that they never allow the "Owlsley" style archtype
full range over the landscape.
Had the concealed the two unreachable locations the game would have
been a success.

A gaming success but artistic failured caused by the need to integrate
a true quest puzzle solving
game with a realistic first person shooter. The quest team pre-dated
the 1st person shooter.
In article MMO stands for Massive Multiplayer Online - Game

Their mistake is what I refuse to do in my story.
If a reader sides with Michelle as victim turned avenger that is their
plot line position.
If a reader sides against Eight as a meglomaniacal throw back to the
stone age who should be
eradicated by Michelle that is their position. Both survive as
archtypes of the momentum interaction
equation 2vs1 = remainder 1 AS Origin creates momentum circuits
retaining 50.01 % control of circuits.
Hype comment,,,
Funny thing is the latest installment already won game of the year and
nobody has even played it yet.

Quest line
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_quests
I completed all functions but had to return to the original add-on to
the main quest line to open map sites.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_add-ons
----------------------------------

Bethesda Sues Interplay Over Use Of Fallout License
by Kris Graft


September 11, 2009

Bethesda Sues Interplay Over Use Of Fallout License

Autodesk
Fallout rights holder Bethesda Softworks has made good on its threat
to sue developer Interplay for allegedly failing to hold up its end of
agreements inked in April 2007.

Bethesda filed a complaint -- obtained by Gamasutra -- in the U.S.
District Court of Maryland on September 9 requesting a preliminary and
permanent injunction against Interplay's manufacture, sale, and
distribution of Fallout Trilogy, which includes the classic PC games
Fallout, Fallout 2 and Fallout Tactics.

Bethesda accused Interplay of trademark infringement, claiming that
while Interplay was permitted to sell pre-existing Fallout games, it
was required to submit to Bethesda all relevant packaging,
advertising, and promotional material prior to bringing the catalog
titles to market.

But Bethesda claimed that Interplay never sought pre-approval for
those materials. The plaintiff said because of the alleged trademark
infringement, consumers have become confused between the makers of the
pre-existing Fallout games and Bethesda's more recent Fallout 3 -- a
situation that Bethesda wanted to avoid.

Bethesda also accused Interplay of breaching the trademark agreement
by signing licensing agreements with digital distribution sites like
Steam, GOG.com, and GameTap to sell older Fallout games. The company
claimed Interplay's alleged actions have caused the studio "immediate,
substantial, and irreparable harm."

Bethesda is also asking the court for a declaration stating a
trademark licensing agreement between the two companies is terminated.
In 2007, Bethesda purchased the Fallout franchise from Interplay in
full for $5.75 million. Within that purchase agreement was a trademark
licensing agreement, the complaint said, that allowed Interplay to
license back the rights to develop an MMO based on the Fallout series.

But the stipulation was that Interplay had to have commenced full-
scale development of the Fallout MMO by April 4, 2009, two years after
the signing of the original contract. Bethesda subsequently issued a
notice to Interplay, saying the company was in breach of contract by
allegedly not entering full-scale development of the MMO by the agreed
upon deadline. In a regulatory filing in April this year, Interplay "
adamantly" disputed that claim.


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>(in the esoteric sense of
> that term), I'll just read the damn thing at
> face value and wisely move along...

The critique is invaluable... You know that.
Plus the synergy between your own chosen linear
outline of your core story components from dead-eye index is
awesomely helpful.
I got ATM to the emerald-green covered battlefield of Lightmach-24
where he siezed control of the immortal two sphere soul world and then
the shit hit the fan / sham hit the fit...
Since then I have secured income and housing and gotten used to
a new environment. Their are players who can not continue without
a complete restructuring of their record systems.
Those players are in my immediate circle as family or friend.
We both accept it is an information gaming environment that was
designed for continuity
of consciousness leading to greater and more satisfying forms of
existence and experience
of self and others in (free realms protected by the wisdom of
experience << much more on this theme below)
settings conducive to learning and assimilation of choices and
options.

>All your
> input here helps alot, though, I tend to
> forget your basic geometries.

Ditto right back at you.
Analyzing the dead-eye index has been extremely useful.
It goes to a fun word you created ages ago cross-pollination
of ideas. Two people repetitively searching the same infofields to
discern
the underlying abstract equations and measuring them against the
current content
generation of the realm from which the two observers are attempting to
observe
without altering the loops. I guess we both gave up on that part of
Schrodinger equations aye.
I like Jack's picture of the eyeball connected in feedback loop to the
funnel.
Coarse but very much to the point.
Dylan has a good line in 'masked and anonymous" where the Jacob's
Ladder archtype becomes warily
convinced to get involved again.
Editor: "So are you reporter or a (disdain) ...novelist."
Traveler: (taking off ankle bracelet):"Doesn't matter out here its all
the same thing."
Editor: "Well there's a story out there."
Traveler: "What story, it's all the same story."


>You have the
> benefit of subjectively seeing the entirety
> in multidimensions, whilst the rest of us
> grapple, forget, compare, drag along our own
> impressions, etc...

That's ATM forcing the issue so I don't lose my sanity
to narrative descriptions and feelings of inadequacy based
on my billion dollar bank account gone missing and my harem
of fifty pre-Tiger Woods babelettes disappearing and the yacht that
sank and the collection of Rolls Royces consumed by fire and the
deepest insult my brother Queen Elizabeth not refering to me as The
Arthur of Arthur's.
It's a dog's life. Me and ATM take turns as the dog and master. ATM
loves me it has
performed many amazing tricks when nobody is looking who would get
upset by so called miracles.
Funny example involving 8-19.

My brother and his friend were describing on Good Friday (the day
attributed to the crucifixion)
how at precisely 3:15 PM the clouds always appear and blot out the sun
to remember Jesus.
ATM slightly perturbed for me knowing I don't have a clue their
running bids through me made it
happen just so he could withdraw the money from their stored assets
and give it to me.
A most spectacular display of weather control as a god smack to my
older brother.

>hey, there's the baggage
> check-stand up ahead, will pack a bunch of
> luggage in this combination locker, and head
> for the bridge... which reminds me...

Yeah but you have a prime version of the five.
I'll have to do the side bar post detailing the five prime circles as
a braided object
with circle six being a slight twist of circle fives geometry and
circle seven being
a complete duplication of circle five as seven. You see it's ATM at
its raw genius level.
I throw in the unbreachable security structure using runs of PI to
show how it coan be displayed without
undue consequence due to its inherently built in computation
measurement facility that establishes
which extended iteration of ATM is talking to which extended Iteration
of ATM as "Tower" function.

> On Sunday, July 18, 2010...
> Dreamed half the day long. Remembered:
> Was driving on a highway, north... along a
> very high overpass that suddenly ended in
> mid-span, but thinking it was okay to continue
> driving, not seeing any caution sign or
> barriers, I kept on driving, utterly freaked
> out that the height of the fall in the car
> would completely demolish me, yet I
> drove on maintaining the same altitude,
> seeing in the distance the overpass on
> the other side of this huge gap, and so
> the car crossed successfully to the other
> side.

This is good spontaneous assimilation of huge data bursts and inter-
related
geometries into executive summary packages that are; "Pithy &
Memorable."

>I was so stunned by this extraordinary
> event that the next day I sought out the
> road crew working around this crazy gravity
> defying overpass.

Your private share of concealed ATM records accessible
only to you. Which includes a large body of questions
and answer between us I assembled as "Technical Books"

>The first guy I asked
> about it, beginning to explain what happened,
> turned out to be a little boy with a scratch
> on either his face or arm, who said: "I don't
> want to work here anymore."

He likes the animal kingdoms because they love him unconditionally
or simply eat him for supper with fanfare or torture based preludes.

>The worker next to
> him, who I began explaining the amazingly
> terrifying ride across empty space, turned out
> to be the little boy's mother, who looked at
> me like I was crazy.


Yeah the girl got paranoid replacing the real workers
except Eight who can't be driven out because he is trillions of
versions of ATM older than she is.

>I realized I somehow
> managed to avoid the 'real workers' on this
> highway. It was only when I woke up that it
> occurred to me that this actually had not
> really happened...]
>

Only dreams that are realer than real life such as that
last in my memory and can be recalled as if opening the palm
of a hand and instantly back into the dream parameter.


> <> A picture is worth a thousand words I have heard people say. :-)
> <>

> <>http://groups.google.com/group/intraphase/web/current-expansion-picto...


>
> Great shot. 'ATM' at centerpoint:
> can't quite tell if it looks
> like a Sumerian Serpent Goddess,
> or The Statue of Liberty...
>

Somebody who must have feared every walk across the bridge using it as
a focal point to disrupt
an obnoxious thought pattern rhythm that said "Jump" or "This bridge
could collapse" a potent
use of an object as powerful sigil defeating a compulsive fear by
extending it indefinitely until its
charge is not enough to run the length of the circuit.

> <> I have intense loyalty to Catholics and Protestants
> <> but only ATM can grant them "Continuity."
> <> 8-19-25-44-etc Would lose their individuality if
> <> they were carrying and deploying consciousness
> <> other than their own. In that vain further on in
> <> the story 44 manages the reverse time insertions
> <> ordered by 55-Old Chief.
>
> I clearly need to read a lot more before
> addressing anything else.
>

Only when inspired to do so.
I am ready to begin finishing book three end point
after a 1&1/2 year hiatus caused by survival issues.
I am satisfied we both made progress on our own
private progressions and also in our mutual exploration
of: " The Core Story & The Key Line & Lines " topology.

> <> :and overt & covert injuries, physiological,
> <> :sexual and emotional with kaleidoscopic mental
> <> :states, etc., and this powerful, Almighty
> <> :True Mystery (ATM) figure, with a myriad of
> <> :confusing geometric-numerical configurations
> <> :that cycle & re-cycle throughout... stops me
> <> :dead in my tracks.
> <>
> <> You did read Enoch no?
>
> See: home.netcom.com/~mthorn/intraphz.htm

I always remembered that bit.
Its one of my favorites fractal telescopes.

Each religion serves its purpose as way of storing
ever more increasing amounts of information in
separate containers with redundant copies in each container.
If one copy is lost each container has the entirety stored in
compact extractable forms.
ATM visually demonstrated the basics to me so I would understand
in pictographs the process of its destruction and subsequent
recreation.
I am the defeated dead version of Almighty to ATM's recreated self.
I exist to help dismantle the destroyers and can elect to not exist if
I choose
once the process is complete.

That's the part of the sequence involving "The Bridges of Nothing"
Where I travel through the shattered incoming decision templates
and arrive alone in The Infinite after escaping the realm I was
destroyed in.
To the christains a holy ghost as opposed to The Holy Ghost.
That's why predicting the future is scam because ATM & Eight give me
whatever I want in the hopes I shall choose existence over non-
existence.
Either way the records are intact and the aggressors are being deleted
as we speak.
In a war people die. I've seen trillions of beings die in an instant;
its part of the process.

Yes. Jesus is absent from the transfiguration to the resurrection.
Twenty-five took the yoke and carried it then Jesus lived it.
Then the passage is used for true christians to understand their
leader
and for true enemies to allow them fair warning about what their up
against.
Eight the little boy in the tomb who cold bloodedly tells Mary
Magdeline "he's gone."

The whole Mary's Seven Devils theme.
She attempted to kill him on track six and ATM evacuated him.
Then the decision is reversed for Jesus's sake as an individual being.
On track seven he dies and is resurrected and Eight confronts the girl
describing how the incident shall be used to prove her complicity in
his death
as a former eternal consorting with immortals to destroy The Almighty
Record.

> home.netcom.com/~mthorn/divinepr.htm
>
> <> :and overt & covert injuries, physiological,
> <> :sexual and emotional with kaleidoscopic mental
> <> :states
> <>
> <> I think the story is honest and we live in a
> <> society where people either fear a blank eyed
> <> recital of the facts of survival or go to the
> <> opposite end of the spectrum seeking victim
> <> status.
>
> Absolutely. I refer back to my momentary inclination
> for dime store psycholo-gizing, and what not, mainly
> inspired by the semi-regular hints from you in various

> modes, formats, and situations ...
>

I survived untouched but remember the inconvenience of being
forced to defeat my unchosen opposition including drawing
six billion dollars off the Catholic treasury contributed mostly
by devout children and old people who love Jesus.

As to "The Cult of The Virgin" that speaks to the girls need to sully
a rival female. It's between Mary and ATM the particulars of that
body creation and deployment.

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Truth and Love have specific ATM definitions to avoid denial of
service attacks.
with Truth having the active cause and effect level of choice and Love
having
the secondary choice as responding to other peoples choices.
Both representing colorized variations of cause and effect management.


<> ATM Keeps the dream linear as a gift of learning to
<> prevent destruction of the new awarenesses.
<> The part your getting hung up on is the repetitive
<> nature of the forms: point line circle spiral sphere/new point.
<> When it is personalized into the early characters of the
<> opening act.

:Okay, that sorta makes sense. INCANTATA For Dummies,
:wherein at appropriate passages in the text, an illustration
:of the action superimposes the sequence of dimensionality
:upon an anthropocentric framework. I haven't really
:'read the book' so am I being disingenuous to imply that
:this kind of superimpositioning might not be intuitive
:to all who read it?

Never Everybody and Always are tough standards to pursue.
I don't think it was included as detail but as a rational for people
who haven't spent as much time in reductionist thinking as have
you and I.

<> You already read Oceans long ago with A-Eight/Juzya Kidd
<> & J-Nineteen - Aloysius contesting against
<> The Old Chief - Granite Face 'wind stopping' scene up
<> to No Name - ATM
<> - Almighty.

:Yes, but (two annoying words)
:'Yes, but' it is as if I haven't.

The Expansion Process is ongoing.
This section of creation is 50.01 percent over.
It's effectively 12:01 PM

<> :but some
<> :novels are like that, where you're not quite
<> :sure who is in charge of the storyline,
<>
<> Eight As ATM As ATM As Eight & Nineteen/Pierce
<> "The Waters of Daniel"

: WHEW!

I thought that was obvious.
A Christian studied in bible symbols would pick up on that instantly.
That's why Daniela used to kid me about being an orphaned sperm.
The same theme was used in "Lost": Daniel Far-A-Day as the artificial
intelligence package launched at Earth to dislodge the captured
version of Almighty
so another updated version with malfunctions and corrections could be
inserted in situate.
(situate [ˈsɪtjʊˌeɪt] verb (tr; often passive) to allot a site to;
place; locate) Locale 07-07-1979
The Watchtower area of The Grand canyon. Human day linear 7200 from
10-20-1959. 2X10X360
Display of T.O.E. 32313 as Annihilation Confirmed begin inserting over
rides extract 8-19-25 by 44-0.


<> :relativistic; maybe in this case it's more
<> :quantum psychological, polyphonous future-
<> :archaic percussionist, sacred text meets
<> :archetypal graphic novel, a hyperdimensional
<> :autobiographical cosmic comic book??!
<>
<> We usually see what our eyes are
<> trained to see.
<> The story has a poetry companion
<> and a physics companion.
<>
<> Its the political sociological
<> great stage that is presented.

:Nicely stated.

Your a Pip.
Great Expectations. :-)

<> Best advice I could give is blast through
<> it as if its as meaning less as every
<> piece of tripe that passes for a story in
<> this world of short attention spans tweting
<> and twittering into the sunset.

:Hah! Good deal. Will do.

The deeper shit is only for people who would bother to read it a
second time with the poetry and technical companions to reference
in the same way people tear into "Finnegans Rainbow" and "Infinite
Jest"
It's meant to be a piece of literature satisfying as a surface drama
and capable to holding up
to the scrutiny of polished artists examining it for the integrity of
its forms as non-contradictory
or purposefully contradictory as examination of competing priorities
with social conflicts.
It is very rspectful of Buddhist Jew Christian Muslim and Shintu
also :-)
Jesus Buddha and Mohammed have very respectable cameos checking on
their portions of
creations to insure proper administration function shall be available
to those who choose them
as permanent teachers or fellow creators in cooperative endeavors.

As I said in earlier post I have all the main actors very close at
hand;
this being a small planet and a small galaxy on a single lightmach -
vacuumn pressure 73/23/3/1

No one can experience them like you can.
I catch a wealth of vibes thanks to the surreal narrative
of the Dead-Eye index. For some reason that seems like the blueprint
for a story as grand
in scope as the one I'm trying to write.

:since


:it was my own work that I was getting FEEDBACK on.

I only realized the degree of loops I was managing while
Remote Viewing from 10-18-2004 to 05-05-2007.

The entire package of information I experienced in 1984-85
seventy-three day period of decoherence was me drilling holes
through me. Or more precisely 55 & 44 Demanding rights of way
from my consciousness as 8-19-25. As per the rights of future selfs
to be in legal harmony with previous earlier selfs.
It goes to the geomewtry of consciousness, I have a very telling
example
at PJ's RV megasite under the name "Vorschai" where I grab Allen
Mohammed in
mid killing spree in the future. As it was occuring I was already hip
to the concept
of future self's needing guided rights of way. That dawned hard on me
as we
talked of many things and I reported the occasional Intraphaser
versions of myself politely
passing me as "past position of core navigation marker point."

"Anyone else who looked at them saw only marginally
"interesting drawings of possibly neurological interest.
"'Beware the Jabberwock!'

Theres a set of four attached to the "O" discussions that are hard
core color magnets
with multiple layers. Side by side they seem inseperable like a four
panel piece designed
to be presented as one. The 1979 coffee style down the rabbit hole in
various color themes
are stand alone and illustrate the Dead Eye Index perfectly.

A lot of people know your stuff who you don't realize know your stuff.
They admire your willingness to challenge me on specifics while
actually
having substantive challenges based on prime forms and underlying
structure.
We argue/debate/discuss/measure according to the same broadband of
mindscape tools.

I think you disparage "Scalar" unnecessarily. It accurately depicts
people who overplayed
their position during Day-06 Expansion Two. The Girl died when I died
her records exist
but are now unavailable to be used as weapons to attack ATM.
She works as a graphic artist assigning picture to book covers, which
mirrors her clocking
functions as a human wishing she could just shut everyone up
permanently.

:Right.

Nice!

MT Version 3.5 Beta Revision6A.1

:home.netcom.com/~mthorn/runes_mt.htm

<> [> Sort of a pre echo also on the outward
<> [> for working you long walk sequence in
<> [> with eight in the ship as black and ATM
<> [> as white and red serving as a substitute
<> [> for yellow.
<>
<> ...I'll have to make another effort at
<> deciphering rhythms amid virtual
<> particle-like protagonists appearing
<> and evaporating and reappearing.
<> Will disappear myself, for awhile,
<> some other time...
<>
<> [> This is the other end of that thing:
<> [> two six rod computation sphere engines
<> [> bridged by a flexible equation.
<> [> The Chinese don't want the Americans
<> [> to go belly up and forfeit their
<> [> debts so they pitch in to stop flood.
<> [>

<> [> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/16/china-ufo-sightings-back_n_6...

The second being partial senility as what people call; dotage or
second childhood.


<> Al Gore and Obama were mankind's
<> future; until recently.
<> We'll see what the seething crowd of
<> twitterites and tweeters cooks up next
<> to distract themselves from facing
<> their own creations.
<>
<> To survive long term is to be an
<> accurate precise map of information
<> regarding one's choices and outcomes
<> no matter what the setting or
<> existence parameters.
<>
<> A fleshbot is a fleshbot is a fleshbot.
<> A set of clothes to house a being
<> interacting visibly with other beings.

:Again, an evolutionary artifact left over
:from a more tribalistic mindset, appropriate
:in the right setting that no longer exists
:on this planet. To align with an individual
:strong man'

A common enough phenomenom.
To unite under the banner of common ideals
was the force that overthrew the strong man and woman...

:(now including women in post


:patriarchal trans-matriarchal society) to
:guide the masses has become obsolete.

I think Post - Monarchical is the truest most accurate.
Male and Female evil is still just evil in different fleshbot
uniforms.

:You of all people realize the obvious


:emergence of seeming chaos is simply
:everything being exactly where it needs
:to be to flesh out all that was hidden
:and powerless

I agree to this point reflecting it as don't fix it unless it's
broken.
When Obama took power as a mulatto elitist pretending to represent
the common man and woman of all colors and then looted the treaury of
seven trillion
dollars to stave off the wolves another couple of years I voted
against him.

That meant over riding disaster in the gulf.
A disaster he was comfortable inflicting on his very followers.
A long time ago that body was owned by a man named Barry
A consortium of renegades runs that show now and they are falling
fast and hard,
I knew The Weathermen and The SDS and Black Panthers for what they
were;
people who threw rocks at the buses of school children in the hopes of
a new revolution.

This is the big get even.
Give them what they wanted.
When its to late to use it for the purpose sought.
Crush them under the weight of the very curses they cast for eight
years.

The old adage: We reap what we sow.


:integrating with all that


:is enriching and painful and necessary.
:It is clear you see it, just be careful
:of automatically drawing conclusions from
:flawed regressively inclined sources of data.

I'm the only person on Earth who would look Obama in the eye
and tell him its nice to see The Pharoah finally come up on trial.
In the sense that accurate retrospection trumps random regressives
I could agree with your premise. I see the long view and the short.

The short view for me is the original copy of The Declaration
with no signatures on it that was then copied several times for
record keeping purpose and in preparation for signing.

That unsigned copy is the one kept by ATM to reverse all contracts.
The government owns: All Health Care, All College Loans, All
Mortgages.
Eighty-five percent of America is ready to fight the elitist
intellectuals to
undo what has been done.
That's not regressive; that's a recitation of what is now obvious.

The long view for me goes back to long before the dawn of history.
Sitting with Eight listening to him give lectures on abstract
structures
to stromatolites and pretending they were listening to him until it
came true.

For me this world is over.
So I built a new one and moved on.
Like that comment to my physics teacher: "I just seem to be here." :-)

That's where in cause and effect assessments we are like two pennies
doing a tango in a reasonable simulation of an Eight style dialectic
in that
I would put forth the premise that we arrived at that point in late
2007 and
the meltdown began with the forces of symmetry both Re-Pulp-Licking
and Demo-Rats
indistinguishable as fellow travelers in an elite culture of slave
holders.
Obama is merely the post Borg reflection of the common peoples
inability to
distinguish that a black master and a white master are still masters.

:Then we'll


:have to call that pain in the ass architect
:to run a few more simulations... <grin>

You know I take that in the light hearted manner it was intended MT
but we both know the underlying futility of playing the "Robot King"
game.
I could cry when I think of how easily people surrender their freedom.
It is as you said this period has to happen to allow other periods to
occur
autonomously as the healthy expression of free will.
I don't rail against Obama, Bush, Clinton etc etc et al.
I believe in the six thousand years of encapsulated history lessons
embodied
by The Declaration, The Constitution and The Bill of Rights including
its
implementaion of the checks and balances of tripartite governance.

Eight helping the elite gain absolute power was his way of destroying
them.
If that jibes with the descriptions of yours just above then we see
beam to beam
and mast to mast as we sail to an undiscovered horizon.

We'll see how it plays out this time.
I'm betting on myself and my ability to create
attend and dismantle until interrupted by ATM.


:And we never even mentioned;
:CORPORATIONS...

People are the problem.
Corporations are the shield they hide behind;
similar to religions, governments, arts and sciences.
In the long run only scrupulous policing of ones own
contributions and non-contributions can lead to semi-decent
navigation of the seas of existence; that;s why some times
I push the Clock Town perspective because it gets really predictable
at times watching the outcome of people casting twisted seeds
onto finely tended fertile soil AKA the different underlying fabric
we are experiencing in these ATM supervised expansion periods.

Said colloquially: Eights in a growing spurt. :-)

<> [>
<> [> Taking every instance of had out.
<> [>
<> [> 'As' and 'Had' are early writing crutch usage.
<>
<> :... Yeah, your early book will be different
<> :than your more recent stuff. Have you updated
<> :it since my PDF copy of April 2010?
<>
<> I added the five page intro as an inevitable
<> dramatically paced revelation of
<> the actions and story to com. 8-19-25-55
<> have to allow Pierce access.

I'm looking forward to reading that as soon
as I post this. If you never hear from me
again, then I guess it worked!

I would like a systems overview from you but am not surprised
you kept getting hung up on that particular section because
of your attention to form and style as a necessary platform for
an authentic creation.

I reread those parts and the three black males and one black female
as Michelle in negative space holds up as the triangular array of the
computational story engines burrowing inward through the time space
fabrics from 2004 in reverse to extract the toroidal lines 8-Buddha 19-
Jesus 25-Mohamed
from the collapse of an All Transit-64 portrayed by The Hunter-Alex
Mathias
being extricated from the Room of Rainbows (Mathias is the apostle who
replaced Judas)
He's also a close Dylan surrogate that can be easily viewed by Uncle
Bob as he chooses
for whatever reason personal or private in a secondary witness to The
Hunters attacked
position as official Witness Functionary - Glorified Notary Public -
Contract Processor.

<> :The early
<> :book has terrible punctuation, especially the
<> :semi-colons. I hate semicolons, only because
<> : I hardly know how to; appropriately; use them
<> :myself. In your early book, you should probably
<> :just either delete them or swap them for commas.
<> :You know what I mean? I'm curious if you've
<> :heard back from any publishers.
<>

I took this serious because colons are almost useless.
I like to use semi-colons after a serous of commas to signal
a rhythm punctuation that the sentence is almost over.
Comma usage is vital and I had a few holes to cover... but yes the
earliest part of the book has rough patches becauses I added detail at
certain points to round out the
flow of the stage setting.

An important point an anonymous reader notated is:
Your physical position on The Eternal Fairgrounds has a clock like
effect on your position in other worlds.

I would appreciate the totality overview you could provide because
your stories mirror
mine from a different angle from which I could never reach and yet are
parallel in their ratios
of harmony dissonance and silence and their occasionally sudden
emergence into a new realm.
They could be used in a series of time broadcast by The Players to
bridge the three cornered triangle
as it moves through the other triad 1984 - 2004 - 2013.

I want you to read it all and get permission to model them with
attribution
as adaptations of an original work. It's no different than consulting
on a software
project and letting me license six proprietary cull and display
protocol dynamic linkage library (.dll)
They would have the authentic voice of alternative perspective with
slight reservations stipulating
the rights of the minority be protected from the tryanny of the
magority.
I would adapt them only in name usage to assign them to the player
called to do the broadcast.
That's why you have to read ahead even if you skip the individual
broadcasts as (back story).

<> Its back to the future on that subject.
<> The story being finished precludes bothering.
<> It's my main piece of artwork.

:Right. It's pretty cool that you even made
:it available for public consumption.
:It has built in copyright protection because
:no one in this universe could possibly rip it
:off due to its extremely unique nature,
:operating according to your mind only.

That's why I said I understood your feelings about
your early art work. Eventually the opposite phenomenon
of wanting thoughtful critique no matter what the reader's point
of view on the socio-political orientation spectrum

:No one


:could touch it or claim it. So... punctuation
:was a minor gripe. You're a musician. You know
;about pauses and accents, etc. Same with
:punctuation. 'Nuf said.

:-)

<> Sometimes when overdrawn I see it as
<> slightly decoherent but when alert and
<> invested the geometry holds up in that
<> early section as accurate development
<> of the three engines orchestrating the
<> continuity of the realm which are based
<> under the three compasses.

:That's at its 'esoteric' heart. The 'exoteric'
:part is the story the even Joe The Plumber
:could get. The 'mesoteric' is the space
:between the two extremes. It's fun to
:surf all three.


It's an elaborate geometric dance the characters are forced to
participate
in for their own survival and their ability to retain free will as a
small group
operating within the context of larger group in possession of free
will.

One of the themes beaten to death in writers groups is:
"Show me don't tell me." maybe that dictum has to much
play in my mind sometimes and showing becomes tedious.

<> :Any constructive
<> :criticism from any of them? You should keep all
<> :your rejection letters, put them in a big crate.
<> :They'll be worth something some day.
<>
<> :The whole publishing' industry has totally
<> : flipped-out and morphed into something else,
<>
<> That's an understatement; it is a ship
<> that is underwater and sinking fast.

:You'll be able to publish it yourself,
:maybe even make a ton of dough off selling
:it online. The compendium of non-fiction works
:should generate even more. Sell the rights
:to a 3D movie studio exec (some chick in her
:basement with technology that would floor
:NASA), and retire to a sunny terraformed
:Martian valley. (If earth's primitive
:technological growing pains don't
:kill us all first)...

Once its finished and polished I'll find some way to promote
wide distribution that insures it's survival as a sincere intricate
work; no matter how the subject matter or author is regarded.
Ultimately I shall derive comfort from its existence in my
consciousness.

<> :but I imagine
<> :editors still exist, and savvy industry
<> :visionaries who can see something unique when
<> :it's in their face.
<>
<> I agree but the number is small.
<> I have a potential agent who is up
<> to the task in mind.
<>
<> :So don't ever pretend to
<> :yourself that this epic MoFo creation of yours
<> :isn't unbelievably amazing. Just the Codes
<> :and Bibliomancy alone make it legendary.
<> :Keep writing it... (or is it writing you?)
<>

I am at peace with feedback loops and consider my experiences
of the 73 day decoherence of 1984-1985 as the price I payed to create
a great work of art. Beethoven suffered greatly to achieve the Ninth
Symphony.

<> Once I entered a physics class late on the first
<> day of college.
<> Opening the door I asked; "Is this Physics 107?"
<> The Professor asked: "Are you buying or selling?"
<> I replied after a brief intuitive flash; "Both."
<> He pointed to an empty chair.
<>
<> If I really was savvy I could have said;
<> "I am already there I just seem to be here."

Heheheh...

:-)

That's a studious observation of a " DEEP!!!!" observation.

:Your head's in the right place,

Its about the work and believing in it while seeking
constructive criticism from people generous enough
with their time and energy to give it towards a piece of art work.

:wherever that is?! Onward...

Getting ready for bed.
This was an all day reply.
I am a slow typist by choice.
But as I said before this has been good preparation
for the resumption of writing.

I begin with the simple instructions as I start the great battle.

CONE RING RUNNER.

Those are the three unresolved promise from the early story.

The Cone... is The Rendlesham Forest landing of The Damaged Light Cone
Tip.
The Ring... is Pierce's finding of the ring given to him by Old-55's
little self to Tatianni
after she gives him her virginity.
The Runner is Tatianni promise to clear a path for McBain's run to
safety when
he flips out as the 1-3-5 progression closes and he is forced to exit
the body and creation.

Everything coming backwards in time is caused by Eight / Twenty-Fives
expulsion from creation
wher upon they recite the I AM Knots and begin the ATM recreation
procedures after a total collapse.


<> You have the core story in the geometry of those five bits you do.

Six, if you count 'SCALAR' (which sucks)
PART I THE VESSEL
PART II THE INTERCEPTORS
PART III THE TOWER
PART IV THE LONG WALK
PART V FRACTAL

Scalar marks expansion one parallel reception of "Purple Haze"
and possibly its intermingling with expansion two "Brown Dirt Cowboy"
Trust me dude don't change it. I see the girls attempt to sabotage you
in there I know her
style. Thanks for sharing that dream. heres the loop Jimi insisted on
closing by hand to mark
this occasion and truthful exchange of information.

Concerning 55 Old Chief and his "Hidden Mirror- The Tomahawk Boy at
Fairgrounds" and his artsy fartsy friend MT.


Castles Made of Sand

-----------------------------
As she slams the door in his drunken face,
And now he stands outside and all the neighbours start to gossip and
drool.

He cries "Oh girl, you must be mad,
What happened to the sweet love you and me had?"
Against the door he leans and starts a scene,
And his tears fall and burn the garden green.

And so castles made of sand, fall in the sea, eventually.

A little Indian brave who before he was ten, played war games in
the woods with his Indian friends, and he built a dream that when he
grew up, he would be a fearless warrior Indian Chief.

Many moons passed and more the dream grew strong, until tomorrow
He would sing his first war song,
And fight his first battle, but something went wrong,
Suprise attack killed him in his sleep that night

And so castles made of sand, melts into the sea eventually.

There was a young girl, whose heart was a frown,
Because she was crippled for life, and couldn't speak a sound
And she wished and prayed she would stop living, so she decided to
die.
She drew her wheel chair to the edge of the shore, and to her legs she
smiled

"You won't hurt me no more."
But then a sight she'd never seen made her JUMP AND SAY
"Look, a golden winged ship is passing my way"
And it really didn't have to stop...it just kept on going.
And so castles made of sand slips into the sea,
Eventually

---------------------------------

PART VI SCALAR
http://tinyurl.com/EYEDEAD
But I think you're talking about something else,
relative to what we're talking about non verbally,
'those five bits' : "Five Stages of Management"

I have a whole table of prime five forms vs one forms we did earlier
in discussions.

<> I'll cover your take on the seemingly convoluted geometry.
<>
<> It really is the railroad bit.

Deja Vu in curved space/time...

I was just beating to death the idea that
the clues are inserted repeatedly and I hope not annoyingly.
Pretend you are Pierce or McBain and you gain access to their
144,000 vs 144,000 line sphere volume navigation strategy for
Lightmach-25

<> As the rail bed crossed Rural Route 67,
<> at the north access point outlet, of the
<> service road; there was a single red light
<> inside a black 'X': and a drop gate of black
<> and white stripes.
<> The Little Bohemia location was chosen
<> because it was the halfway point between the
<> only two outlets on the railway service road,
<> providing for exceptional privacy and security.
<>
<> Little Bohemia was the remote hideaway
<> where John Dillinger avoided
<> Melvin Purvis.

Six degrees of Robert Anton Wilson

"Have you ever considered the possibility
that God might be a crazy woman? Or that
John Dillinger died for you? Do you think
there might be a secret technique by which
the Enlightened can literally get Something
for Nothing?

)))) John Dillinger and all the gangster books I read taught me
to believe I could:

"Avoid Outwit & Outlive"
The
"Ruthless
Merciless
& Murderous"

I read the 2000 page two volume "Rise and Fall of The Third Reich"
when I was ten.
The library was the internet back then and you had to chart your own
route accordingly.


Six degrees of Robert Anton Wilson continues...

....Could the Martians have the


true religion while Earthians are lost in
superstitious darkness? Can a cup of coffee
be a sacrament, and if not, why not?
Does the mathematics of six-dimensional
space-time and philosophy of Multi-Ego
Pantheistic Solipsism explain the universe?"
[ From: 'Religion For the Hell of It'
by Robert Anton Wilson circa 1980's
http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/rel4hell.htm
See also: 'The John Dillinger Died for You Society'
http://www.books.google.com/books?isbn=0440539811 ]

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Change as No Change
"Hay if they give you a wooden nickel keep it to remind you of the
bastards."

An atmospheric piece that I thoroughly enjoyed.
I know the story so well I watched it once and Johnny Depp
became the pen ultimate version of his life story.
The previous one displayed him as a vicious punk.


<> The Lennon character arranges his own exit
<> from life at The Fairgrounds, if you ever
<> get there. "Strawberry Fields Forever."
<> Expansion Workers.

:I'll get there! (Unless I drive off an overpass).

That is not gonna my brother. This I know.

<> The setting and histography lays the
<> ground work for a 'based on a
<> true story' Supernatural Thriller.

You're uniquely qualified to tell the tale.
Seeya 'round, Bro. -- Weds. 21 July 2010,
two days to the SIRIUS NEW YEAR,* July 23rd!

23 Skidoo!
http://old.disinfo.com/archive/pages/dossier/id327/pg1/


Alright I'll ping a don't sweat a quick reply because
I wouldn't have time or inspiration for a rapid turn around.
Hope the critique of storyline overview was decipherable to you
concerning
your: Five Vs. One story generating engine.

Lt. Aoclazteuq

unread,
Jul 23, 2010, 10:33:24 PM7/23/10
to
Just a brief note <blank stare>, then
probably off-line for awhile to attend
to various entities, odds and ends --
will read your posts, catch up on some
books, definitely read YOUR BOOK, and
check in again down the road a piece.

As a Seven Year 0ld Humanoid,
I remember watching JFK's funeral
on ye olde B&W psychotronic device.
In part, that's why I posted that
segment from your story. We've seen
a few Pharaohs come and go. I have
never seen one immediately face
the kind of irrational knee jerk
oppostion as this cat has, including
JFK. Some have said he volunteered
to take the Titanic's helm, AFTER
the iceberg... If you buy a universe
in which time travel flows freely
across all directions, then the
math requires a little tweaking
to include such quaint items as
free will and uncertainty, but if
the 'now' is just a big OCEAN and
time merely a current of focus,
then ... keep on writing that epic!
Thanks bro, see ya later. Oh yeah,
I re-read SCALAR. Not quite as
shitty as I had thought. Thanks.

Stream of consciousness flotsam & jetsam
that washed up offshore covered in oil:

Not all Pharaohs are created equal.
Pharaoh Akhenaten, for example.
Many initiatory esoteric orders,
mystery schools, religions, and
secret societies claim direct
lineage from Akhenaten...

FACTS are harder to come by these
days than OPINIONS.

Heard on the radio today:

"If you are elected as Moses,
who is going to take everyone
to the promised land, then you're
bound to disappoint people." E.J. DIONNE

"The Democrats are the party that says
government will make you smarter, taller,
richer, and remove the crabgrass on
your lawn. The Republicans are the
party that says government doesn't
work and then they get elected
and prove it." -- P. J. O'Rourke [1989]

Search: "Sol Invictus"

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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:36:18 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: SPACETIME VORTEX

"We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time."
['Little Gidding V' by T.S. Eliot]
Cited in: 'The Magus' by John Fowles
http://www.fowlesbooks.com/
http://tinyurl.com/3d7b9

-=O=-

"The king of the south Indian province of Quilacare,
at the completion of the twelvth year of his reign,
on a day of solemn festival, had a wooden scaffolding
constructed, and spread over with hangings of silk.
When he had ritually bathed in a tank, with great
ceremonies and to the sound of music, he then came to
the temple, where he mounted the scaffolding and,
before the people, took some very sharp knives and
began to cut off his own nose, and then his ears, and
his lips, and all his members, and as much of his
flesh as he was able. He threw it away and round
about, until so much blood was spilled that he began
to faint, whereupon he summarily cut his throat."
- A Description of the Coasts of
East Africa and Malabar in the
Beginning of the Sixteenth
Century - by Duarte Barbosa

-=O=-

[1984] TIME WARP "In Search Of An Entrance"

"TIME WARP is a process aiming to penatrate what you
think of as you. Continued fumbling to try to get a
fix on where you are can't silence the ear-shattering
scream of the future as it perpetually hurls through
the hourglass. Sensations feel real, but are perchance
gone before striking the eyeball. The traps of therapy
and mysticism merely set you up for the next steamroller
as they consume your precious moments. Your path is
forced deeper into a tissue paper maze that might as
well be reinforced concrete. What you want is a mere
microsecond out of your reach; a hair-splitting moment
born by the fear of what you might find. A few may sense
a spark, yet fleeting dreams will not help other than
insuring a safe distance. Not the smoke, but the blazing
furor of a living reality exists for those willing to
tempt fortune." TIME WARP (|) 1984 by 'Anon.'

-=O=-

In many ancient cultures, indeed, the king was
ritually sacrificed after a stipulated period
of time. The ritualized killing of the king is
one of the most archaic and widespread rites of
early civilised man. ... In ancient cultures
across the globe, the sacrificed king's body
became the object of a feast. His flesh was
eaten and his blood was drunk. Thus did his
subjects ingest and incorporate into themselves
something of their dead ruler's virtue and
power. A residue of this tradition is obvious
enough in the Christian Communion service.
The Messianic Legacy [(c)1986]
by Baigent, Leigh, & Lincoln;
Chpt. 3, Constantine as Messiah
ISBN 0-8050-0568-4

-=O=-

See also: 'Constantine versus Christ'
by Alistair Kee, 1982 - University of Glasgow

Search: "Sol Invictus"

'The Blob' was the result of an unlikely collaboration
between a screenwriter named Kate Phillips and an
evangelical minister named Irvin "Shorty" Yeaworth.
The two met at the 1957 Presidential Prayer Breakfast.
[...] Yeaworth [was] a director of "Christian education"
films looking to subliminally broadcast his message into
the mainstream.
http://jeffsharlet.com/content/about-the-family/

"THE FAMILY : The Secret Fundamentalism
at the Heart of American Power"
by Jeff Sharlet
http://jeffsharlet.com/content/about-the-family/
http://jeffsharlet.com/content/excerpt-from-the-family/
http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~mlindsay/news.html

THE FAMILY (also known as The Fellowship,
The Fellowship Foundation, and
The International Foundation) is the name
of a designedly informal U.S. organization
that claims to be centered around the
life and teachings of Jesus. The group,
without any formal membership, has
relationships that span from poor
communities in developing countries to
prominent members of the United States
Congress. It is best known for its role
in organizing the annual National Prayer
Breakfast, at which the President of the
United States customarily makes an address.
Douglas Coe has led the group since 1966.

In private teachings and public sermons,
Nazi and Communist leaders have been given
as inspirational examples to emulate for
organizational structure and gaining commitment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_(Christian_political_organization)
[...] Following World War II, [Abraham] Vereide
visited prisoners camps in Germany, and recruited
several former Nazis, such as the Gestapo's head
in America, Ulrich von Geinath, Dr. Otto Fricke,
a radio propaganda specialist of Joseph Goebbels'
service, or Hermann J. Abs, "Hitler's banker".
Vereide's principal collaborator in France was
Edmond Michelet, five-time minister under
President Charles de Gaulle. Fellowship members
have been active in reconciliation efforts between
the warring leaders of The Democratic Republic of
the Congo and Rwanda. The organization has operated
under other names, including: National Committee for
Christian Leadership, International Christian
Leadership, the National Leadership Council,
Fellowship House, the National Fellowship Council.
The Family has interlocking leadership with the
New Age "Cultural Creative" Movement in the form of
Paul N. Temple, a former Standard Oil executive who
was also instrumental in founding the Institute of
Noetic Sciences as well as the World Business Academy.
In 1987, "The Family" co-sponsored a conference,
"Bridging Through Christ" at the Goldlake New Age
center near Boulder, Colorado. Barbara Marx Hubbard
and Doug Coe co-chaired the event; David Spangler,
Findhorn Community representatives, Conservative
Baptist Seminary representatives including Vernon
Grounds and Gordon Lewis participated. [...]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_(Christian_political_organization)
[Note: Barbara Marx Hubbard is tight with
Mormon/'alien' contactee 'Joe Firmage' ~o0O0o~
http://www.evolvingnow.com/firmage2.html ]

Jeff Sharlet, The Family, 2008
http://jeffsharlet.blogspot.com/2008/02/blog-post.html
[...] The Family is about the other half
of American fundamentalist power--not its
angry masses, but its sophisticated elites.
Sharlet follows the story back to
Abraham Vereide, an immigrant preacher
who in 1935 organized a small group of
businessmen sympathetic to European fascism,
fusing the Far Right with his own polite
but authoritarian faith. From that core,
Vereide built an international network of
fundamentalists who spoke the language of
establishment power, a "family" that thrives
to this day. In public, they host prayer
breakfasts; in private they preach a gospel
of "biblical capitalism," military might,
and American empire. Citing Hitler, Lenin,
and Mao, the Family's leader declares,
"We work with power where we can, build
new power where we can't." [...]
http://jeffsharlet.blogspot.com/2008/02/blog-post.html

Book Excerpt: The Family
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/excerpts/2008/05/jeff-sharlet-the-family.html
[...] "We desire to see a leadership led by God,"
reads a confidential mission statement.
"Leaders of all levels of society who direct
projects as they are led by the spirit."
Another principle expanded upon is stealthiness;
members are instructed to pursue political jujitsu
by making use of secular leaders "in the work of
advancing His kingdom," and to avoid whenever
possible the label Christian itself, lest they
alert enemies to that advance. Regular prayer
groups, or "cells" as they're often called, have
met in the Pentagon and at the Department of
Defense, and the Family has traditionally
fostered strong ties with businessmen in the
oil and aerospace industries.

The Family's use of the term "cell" long predates
the word's current association with terrorism.
Its roots are in the Cold War, when leaders of
the Family deliberately emulated the organizing
techniques of communism. In 1948, a group of
Senate staffers met to discuss ways that the
Family's "cell and leadership groups" could recruit
elites unwilling to participate in the
"mass meeting approach" of populist fundamentalism.
Two years later, the Family declared that with
democracy inadequate to the fight against godlessness,
such cells should function to produce political
"atomic energy"; that is, deals and alliances that
could not be achieved through the clumsy machinations
of legislative debate would instead radiate quietly
out of political cells. More recently,
Senator Sam Brownback told me that the privacy
of Family cells makes them safe spaces for men
of power--an appropriation of another term
borrowed from an enemy, feminism.
"In this closer relationship," a document for
members reads, "God will give you more insight
into your own geographical area and your sphere
of influence." One's cell should become
"an invisible 'believing group' " out of which
"agreements reached in faith and in prayer around
the person of Jesus Christ" lead to action that
will appear to the world to be unrelated to
any centralized organization. [...]
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/excerpts/2008/05/jeff-sharlet-the-family-3.html

The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism
at the Heart of American Power
by Jeff Sharlet
http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secret-Fundamentalism-Heart-American/dp/0060559799
http://jeffsharlet.com/content/about-the-family/
http://jeffsharlet.com/content/excerpt-from-the-family/
http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~mlindsay/news.html
http://tinyurl.com/43r2xl

"Could the early years of the twenty-first century
see the emergence of a new Jesus or a new Moses [or a
new Mahdi] to make sense of our puny, worthless lives
and hand down from above a new set of commandments?
Will the prophesied 'return of the Great Initiate'
become a reality, thanks to some carefully contrived
stage management? This new leader or Messiah figure
will be backed by a massive politico-religious
movement -- a New World Ordor of zealots -- the
infrastructure of which is already in place."
( (( .. .]|||||||||||||||||||||||
The Stargate Conspiracy
by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince (1999),
ISBN 0-425-17658-4
(Chpt. 7, 'Endtimes: The Warning') Pgs. 330-332
http://www.namebase.org/sources/fL.html

http://www.subgenius.com/pam1/pamphlet_p4.html
"... JEHOVAH 1 is a VENGEFUL GOD OF WRATH!
JEHOVAH 1 - a.k.a. YAHWEH - is a mad alien,
full of eyes round about, He cometh with the
clouds, radioactive, all-pervading, He has
forged His covenant with the SubGenius
in CHAINS of GENETIC PROGRAMMING and DEMANDS
OBEISANCE to His caveman sense of humor.
He has been denying us SLACK and what He is
making us do dates back to Homo Connectus,
First Whole Man; only by letting our bodies
obey the Code of financial lust survival
that is built into them can our brains
be freed from his INEVITABLE FIST."
http://www.subgenius.com/pam1/pamphlet_p4.html

"The Christ Conspiracy:
The Greatest Story Ever Sold"
by Acharya S -- http://tinyurl.com/6p3m8u
http://www.truthbeknown.com/

How to Build a Universe
That Doesn't Fall Apart Two Days Later
by Philip K. Dick, 1978
http://deoxy.org/pkd_how2build.htm

Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS)
http://www.bigelowaerospace.com/careers/

Search: "Sol Invictus"

-=O=-

Meanwhile... "Forward Into The Past!"

-_/-_/-_/-_/-_/-_/-_/-_/-_/-

T h e Y e z i d i s o f K u r d i s t a n
http://www.songsouponsea.com/Promenade/GnosisE.html

Sufi Martyrs

"...the stormiest and most controversial early movements
within Sufism were led by Husayn ibn Mansur Haflaj
(crucified AD 922),'Ain al-QudAt Hamaddni (crucified AD 1131),
and Shahâb al-Din Suhrawardi (crucified AD 1191).
"Hamaddni's idea of successive reincarnation, and the
redemption of Lucifer, added to his other non-Islamic
preachings, qualified him for burning on a cross by the
Muslim authorities when he was 33.
Al Hallâj claimed himself to be an avatar of the divinity...
and that all creatures are ultimately the manifestations of
the same original Universal Spirit. He thus also declared
Lucifer to have been redeemed and elevated to the highest
universal station, as in Yezidism. He was subjected to
exquisite tortures before being crucified in Baghdad.
At present there is a shrine dedicated to Hallâj in the
sacred Yezidi religious center and shrine complex at Lâlish,
next to the tomb of Shaykh Adi."

- Sufism

-=O=-

"The Yezidis of Kurdistan have been called many things, most
notoriously 'devil-worshippers,' a term used both by
unsympathetic neighbours and fascinated Westerners. This
sensational epithet is not only deeply offensive to the Yezidis
themselves, but quite simply wrong. Yezidism is not
devil-worship, but something far more elusive, and interesting.

This religion, which has aroused so much antagonism, is
difficult to summarize succinctly. To generalize, seven Holy
Beings are venerated, chiefly Melek Tawus, the Peacock Angel."

- The Evolution of Yezidi Religion

-=O=-

"Melek Tawus is an angel who has fallen from God's grace,
and for his repentance, is restored to God's favor. While in
hell, Melek Tawus, in seven thousand years filled seven jars
with his tears of repentance which extinguished the fires
of hell, or at the last judgment will be used to do so.
Melek Tawus was banished from the sight of God because he
refused to bow down, as asked, before God's creation, Adam.
But Yezidis do not identify the fallen angel with a spirit
of "evil." The act of disobedience has been forgiven by god
as a father forgives a wayward son.

For the Yezidis, the internal aspect of Tawus Melek remains
alive. They hold that Tawus Melek is as fire with two
elementary qualities: fire as light and fire to burn-and
the apparently dual aspects of the "good" and the "evil"
exist within the same Person. Every human being is a mixture
of good and evil, and every Yezidi has Tawus Melek in himself.
This is one of the meanings evoked in a 19th century report
by Haji Zain al-Abidin al-Shirwani, who, in a conversation
with a Yezidi leader concerning Tawus Melek, asked, "Who is
Iblis (Satan)?"

'What is the reason behind your worship of him and fear of
him?" The Yezidi replied, "The learned are perplexed by the
comprehension of his reality and scholars are in ignorance
from detecting an atom of the valley of his realization but
the men of knowledge said in his description, if he shows
mankind his light they would have worshipped him as god. He
is hidden but near everyone. All-knowing in regard to men
and their deeds. Satan sometimes comes to you from the walls
and other times from the roofs. Occasionally he resides in
the deepest folds of the heart and sometimes he joins your
body and goes in it like blood. And it is related in the
tradition that Satan is from the fire of glory, meaning that
his glory was created from the fire of the glory of God.'

- Gurdjieff and Yezidism

-=O=-

"There is a myth that Prometheus created humans by mixing
Earth and Water to create the gross body; Athena breathed
Air into it, imbuing it with a Spirit-Soul. Prometheus added
the Higher Soul, which is the Fire that He took from the
Wheel of the Sun and brought to humanity in a Narthêx (giant
fennel) stalk. (The Narthêx corresponds to Shushumna, the
esoteric spinal column of yoga philosophy, which contains the
Fiery Kundalini power.) Recall also that the Thursos, the
sacred Bacchic wand, is made from the Narthêx and holds
Promethean Fire. As implied in the myth of our Promethean
origins, the Fire in our souls is akin to the Celestial Fire
("As above, so below")."

- The Elements: Fire

-=O=-

"Gnostic Christians maintained that the "light" Lucifer
brought was true enlightenment, which He gave humanity
against God's will, as Prometheus stole the fire of heaven
to bring civilization to mankind against the will of Zeus.
God denied Adam and Eve the fruit of the tree of knowledge,
desiring to keep them ignorant; but Lucifer, in the form of
the serpent, gave them the "light" of wisdom.
He became the Prince of the Power of the Air (Ephesians2:2)
who threw his lightning bolts at church towers. He wielded
the trident which, in Eastern symbolism is a triple
lightning-phallus destined to fertilize the Triple Goddess.
In Tantric Hindu symbology, He is the bindu, the spark that
ignites the sacred serpent and awakens the kundalini."

- Lucifer Rising

-=O=-

"Gurdjieff's choice of Beelzebub as hero of the First Series
and the principal expositor of the Teaching, surely has put
those who would take it up in a position similar to the one
the Yezidis have had to endure for many centuries. Externally,
when contacted by "outsiders" or as Gurdjieff sometimes
referred to them, "natives," the Teaching might seem, like
that of the Yezidis to be at bottom "devil worship."
They would entirely miss, for instance, the prayers scattered
through the book, let alone recognize their sacred quality.
In a world that is becoming more and more divided between a
narrow sectarian "fundamentalism" and a "liberal" scientism,
the very hint of Beelzebub as hero would bring anathema from
one camp and a condescending dismissal from the other.
That the Teaching may not be casually spoken of with either
sector, helps to protect it, making it difficult for the
student to take for granted, or worse, profane.

Gurdjieff's Beelzebub, like the Yezidis Melek Tawus is a being
fallen from nearness to God, who redeems himself and is
restored to grace. Each has fallen because in self-will,
following the dictates of his reason, he acted in disobedience
to what was higher. For the Yezidis, the "Devil" is everywhere,
a "practitioner," in the sense of the third of the types of
school about which Gurdjieff told Ouspensky, fit for the
business of the world. In his nearness and familiarity, he is
an archetype of the returning prodigal, a model for the rest
of us who have "fallen," who are much closer to "devils" than
"angels." The "Devil" is also what none of us wish to look at
in ourselves, but must nevertheless see, for that "looking"
actualizes the possibility of redemption."

- Gurdjieff and Yezidism

-=O=-

"The distressing struggle of integrating the shadow side of
ourselves, of wrestling with the dark angel within, is ongoing
and never ending for those who are willing to take it on.
Jung considers it a moral task of the first magnitude, and
given the godlike power conferred upon us most notably by the
ability to unleash atomic energy, the struggle assumes an
urgency and necessity for the future survival of our humankind.
Let us hope enough of us are able and willing to enter the ring."

- Thoughts on Evil
by James M. Shultz

-=O=-

"If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring
forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is
within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."

- Jesus, Gospel of Thomas

-=O=-

"Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord:
though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white
as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall
be as wool."

- Isaiah 1:18

-=O=-

"Historically the chief role in the formation of
Christianity was played not by the teaching of
Christ but by the teaching of Paul.
Church Christianity from the very beginning
contradicted in many respects the ideas of Christ
himself. Later, the divergence became still wider.
It is by no means a new idea that Christ, if born
on earth later, not only could not be the head of
the Christian Church, but probably would not be
able even to belong to it, and in the most brilliant
periods of the might and power of the Church
would most certainly have been declared a heretic
and burned at the stake." -- Peter D. Ouspensky

-=O=-

"What fascinates me is the gap between the
mind and reality. Extreme boredom widens the
gap; so does fatigue. But the gap can be so
light that to all intents and purposes we are
in contact with reality. Then a sudden shock
fills the inner-being with music, and you
know that there was no contact. You were
deceived. You were in your private vacuum,
slowly suffocating to death."
THE GOD OF THE LABYRINTH
by Colin Wilson

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"... The simultaneous incarnations also start 3rd
density with a clean memory slate in order to participate
in the Game.
But this group is adding to the Higher Self's memories
from all incarnations at once, scattered throughout
Earther 3rd density time periods. In both cases
NO pre-Game memories are lost, just hidden.
What can work against spiritual advancement is the
desire for physical immortality..." -- Matrix V
Leading Edge International Research Group
http://www.trufax.org/matrix5/welcome.html

SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 to Orbit
http://www.spacex.com/press.php?page=20080928
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"Human history becomes more and more a race
between education and catastrophe."--H. G. Wells

Raytheon Company
http://www.raytheon.com/
Defense Industry daily
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/
Directory of U.S. Military Rockets and Missiles
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/index.html
White Sands Missile Range
http://www.wsmr.army.mil/
Genetic Engineering News
http://www.genengnews.com/

LHC NEWS http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/News.htm

Second Bardo:
The Period of Hallucinations (Chonyid Bardo)
http://www.lycaeum.org/books/books/psychedelic_experience/tib22.html

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"Everybody understands Mickey Mouse.
A few people understand Herman Hesse.
Hardly anybody understands Einstein.
And nobody understands Emperor Norton."
-- Malaclypse the Younger
http://www.hermetic.com/browe-archive/index.htm

(|) From The Book of Lies - LIBER CCCXXXIII
by Frater Perdurabo:

THE SORCERER

A Sorcerer by the power of his
magick had subdued all things to
himself.

Would he travel? He could fly
through space more swiftly than
the stars.

Would he eat, drink, and take
his pleasure? There was none
that did not instantly obey his
bidding.

In the whole system of ten
million times ten million spheres
upon the two and twenty million
planes he had his desire.

And with all this he was but
himself.

Alas!

Frater Perdurabo on His Ass:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/crowley/lies/index.htm

THE ILLUMINATI DO NOT EXIST
~ Do Not Believe Everything You Read ~
http://www.majesticdocuments.com/documents/suggestive-fiction.php

Discordianism
http://jubal.westnet.com/hyperdiscordia/discordians.html

Norton's Imperium -- Enochian Magick Papers
http://www.hermetic.com/browe-archive/enochian.htm

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Tunnel-Realities and Imprints
and/or Dr. Leary's perspective on these mysteries.
By Robert Anton Wilson (1932-2007)
http://www.rawilson.com/
The Eightfold Model of Human Consciousness
http://www.deoxy.org/8circuit.htm
http://deoxy.org/raw.htm

Card 12, The Hanged Man

And I saw a man with his hands tied behind his back,
hanging by one leg from a high gallows with his head
downwards, and in fearful torments.
Round his head was a golden halo.
And I heard a Voice which spoke to me:
"Behold, this is the man who has seen Truth.
"New suffering, such as no earthly misfortune can
ever cause, that is what awaits man on earth when
he finds the path to Eternity and the understanding
of the Infinite.
"He is still a man, but he already knows many things
inaccessible even to gods. And this conflict between
the big and the little in his soul makes his torture
and his Golgotha.
"In his own soul a high gallows is raised on
which he hangs in suffering, feeling as though he
was turned head downwards.
"He himself chose this way.
"It is for this that he went a long journey from trial
to trial, from initiation to initiation, through failures
and through falls.
"And now he has found Truth and has known himself.
"He now knows that it is he who stands between earth
and heaven controlling the elements with the magical
symbols, and it is also he who walks in the Fool's cap
along a dusty road beneath the blazing sun towards
the abyss where the crocodile awaits him.
It is he with his companion in the Garden of Eden under
the protection of the benficent genie; it is also he who is
bound with her to the black cube of lies; it is he who
stands as the conqueror for a moment in the deceptive
chariot, drawn by the sphinxes ready to rush in
opposite directions; and it is he again in the desert who
looks for Truth with a lantern in the bright of day.
"And now he has found Truth."
1911-1929

A New Model Of The Universe by P.D. Ouspensky
The Symbolism of the Tarot Pg. 215
http://www.global.org/Pub/12_Hanged_Man.asp
http://pweb.netcom.com/~mthorn/qpchipmt.htm
http://www.gurdjieffdominican.com/sufi_seminar_germany.html
www.gurdjieff-ouspensky-centers.org - www.beingpresent.org
http://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/?id=137

DMT, Moses, and the Quest for Transcendence
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/pc/dmt.html
by Cliff Pickover, http://pickover.com/ Reality Carnival,
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/pc/realitycarnival.html
"People with Charles Bonnet Syndrome
See Beings from Parallel Universes"
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/pc/bonnet.html
and "DMT Users See Insect Gods".
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/pc/dmtinsect.html
"Man Discovers Intelligent Beings After Consuming DMT,"
"The fleeting reality of DMT machine elves," and
"Psychedelics, Abortion, and the Chrysanthemum."
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/pc/dmt.html

"DMT in the pineal glands of Biblical prophets
gave God to humanity and let ordinary humans
perceive parallel universes."

The molecule DMT (N,N-Dimethyltryptamine) is a
psychoactive chemical that causes intense visions
and can induce its users to quickly enter a completely
different "environment" that some have likened to an
alien or parallel universe. The transition from our
world to theirs occurs with no cessation of consciousness
or quality of awareness. In this environment, beings often
appear who interact with the person who is using DMT.
The beings appear to inhabit this parallel realm.
The DMT experience has the feel of reality in terms of
detail and potential for exploration. The creatures
encountered are often identified as being alienlike
or elflike. Some of the creatures appear to be
three-dimensional. Others appear to lack depth.

Author Terence McKenna has used DMT and feels that,
"Right here and now, one quanta away, there is raging
a universe of active intelligence that is transhuman,
hyperdimensional, and extremely alien... What is driving
religious feeling today is a wish for contact with this
other universe." The aliens seen while using DMT present
themselves "with information that is not drawn from the
personal history of the individual."

DMT is also naturally produced in small quantities in
the human brain, and it has been hypothesized that DMT
is produced in the pineal gland in the brain.
The pineal gland appears in the developing human fetus
around 49 days after conception. Perhaps an embryo
should not be considered human until DMT production
commences. Note that "zygotic personhood" (the idea
that a fertilized egg is a person) is a recent concept.
For example, before 1869, the Catholic church believed
that the embryo was not a person until it was 40 days old.
(See my letter to President Bush on Cloning, Abortion,
and Stem Cell Research.)
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/pc/bushletter.html
Naturally occurring DMT may play a role in near-death
experiences and alien-abduction experiences.

Is it possible that the reality exposed to humans
by injecting DMT is in some sense a valid reality,
on par with our normal reality? Our minds, which
evolved to help us run from lions on the African
savannas, might not be engineered to see these
other realities under normal circumstances.

What is the guarantee that our minds are naturally
designed to sense the "true reality"? Perhaps there
is no guarantee. If this concept seems weird,
consider a far-fetched example. Imagine a creature
or phenomena that has been lurking among us since
the dawn of evolution. If our ancient ancestors
died every time they perceived the phenomena,
evolution would favor creatures who did not perceive
the creatures or phenomena. One might counter this
argument by saying that our modern instruments,
such as X-ray machines and cameras, should be able
to make the creatures apparent to us, even if our
unaided sensorium is not up to the task.
Reasoning further, because our instruments have
not made these realms apparent to us, the realms
must not be real. However, perhaps our traditional
instruments and theories are also not up to the task.
Or perhaps our interpretation of the instruments'
results is incomplete. Perhaps DMT is an instrument.

As a metaphor, consider infrared goggles.
A person leans on a tree. At night, we don't
see the person. Put the goggles on, and a new
reality results -- a truer reality -- and we see
the man. Similarly, is it possible that our brain
is a filter, and the use of DMT is like slipping
on infrared goggles, allowing us to perceive a
valid reality that is inches away and all around us?

In my book The Science of Aliens,
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/bookscp.html
I write about some of Whitley Strieber's experiences.
Strieber is famous for his book Communion, which
describes his encouters with aliens. When I had
written my book, I was somewhat "down" on Strieber
due to some of the more zany descriptions he once
gave of "aliens" he encountered. Some looked
cartoonlike, while others were the more standard
versions of aliens that most of us contemplate today.
In light of reading about DMT experiences, I can see
more of an overlap in Strieber's descriptions
and DMT-induced aliens.

According to Phillip Klass's UFO Abductions:
A Dangerous Game, Strieber appears to have had
a lifetime of unusual experiences. For example,
in April 1977 Strieber held a brief conversation
with a voice that had come over his stereo system
in his New York apartment. Streiber has also
encountered robotlike aliens, aliens with pug noses
wearing blue coveralls, an alien with an inept
cardboard imitation of a blue double-breasted suit
(complete with a white triangle handkerchief sticking
out of the pocket), and tall aliens in tan jumpsuits.
One alien had a "ridiculous excuse for a curly
black toupee on his head." Strieber once even saw
a giant, ugly insect that made him feel mothered
and loved. Another time he reported seeing the head
of a living woman named Kathie Davis on a shelf
inside a UFO. We can view these descriptions in a
new light, now that we know that DMT can often
produce visions of cartoon-like aliens.

If we were to hunt for the DMT elves, would we
direct our attention to Hawking's waveform model
of the universe or Everett's many-worlds
interpretation of quantum mechanics, or even
higher dimensions?

Is it possible that that some of our human ancestors
produced more DMT than we do today? For example, many
of the ancient Bible stories describe prophets with
DMT-like experiences. (See my book The Paradox of God.)
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/bookscp.html
Consider as one example (Isaiah 6):

Above him were seraphs, each with six wings:
With two wings they covered their faces, with
two they covered their feet, and with two
they were flying. And they were calling
to one another:

"Holy, holy, holy is the LORD Almighty;
the whole earth is full of his glory."

At the sound of their voices the doorposts
and thresholds shook and the temple was
filled with smoke.

These sorts of ecstatic singing and repetitive
exaltations remind me of subjects who took DMT
and heard: "Now do you see? Now do you see?"
along with singing voices. (These cases are described
in Rick Strassman's book DMT: The Spirit Molecule.)

Maybe this is why the ancients seemed so in touch
with God and with miracles and visions. Maybe Moses
and Jesus had a greater rate of pineal DMT production
than most.

When I asked Rick Strassman, M.D., author of DMT:
The Spirit Molecule, about my theory, he responded:
I'm not familiar with a specific theory that we
made more DMT in the old days than now. But, are
you familiar with Jaynes' idea of the bicameral
mind--that people routinely hallucinated until
the connections between our hemispheres got evolved
out for whatever reason? I don't think hemispheric
connections would support his idea as much as might
higher levels of endogenous DMT. If indeed we made
more DMT in the past, this may have to do with the
increase in artificial light that has come upon us
in the last 1000 years or so.

Also, recall that DMT experiences sometimes
include 2-D cartoon-like characters. Often DMT
entities lack depth. Could a higher-production
of DMT in ancient people influenced artwork.
Is that part of the reason why cave paintings
and Egyptian art are so two dimensional?

One way to imagine how other realities could exist
side by side with our own is to consider the forces
that produced the diversity of senses and
intelligences right here on Earth. In a real way,
there are already alien worlds right here among us.
Every Earthly creature perceives the world in
an "alien" way. Dogs. Bees. Bats. Cats.
They experience the world with different kinds
of senses. They can smell what we cannot, they
can see what we cannot, they can hear what we cannot.
If the organisms of the Earth were somehow able to
describe their world to you, it would probably not
be recognizable to you. It would seem like the
wildest world from any science-fiction story.
Moreover, if you were able to describe the world
to another species, they would "see" no resemblance
to their own. Our sense of reality would be different;
our way of thinking would be different, and even the
practical technology we would produce would be
different. We do not have to contemplate aliens
or science fiction to imagine alienlike senses
and bodies. The animal world of Earth is so diverse
and full of different senses, that creatures are
already walking among us possessing "alien"
awarenesses beyond our understanding.

By studying the creatures of the Earth, we can
hypothesize on the diversity of realities here
on Earth. Aliens would no doubt see a different
world than we do. To best understand this, consider
the Indian luna moth, which has a wingspread of
about 10 cm (4 inches). To our eyes, both the male
and female moths are light green and
indistinguishable from each other.
But the luna moths themselves perceive in the
ultraviolet range of light, and to them the
female looks quite different from the male.
Other creatures have a hard time seeing the
moths when they rest on green leaves, but
luna moths are not camouflaged to one another
since they see each other as brilliantly colored.

For a related Reality Carnival story, see
"People with Charles Bonnet Syndrome
See Beings from Parallel Universes"
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/pc/bonnet.html
and "DMT Users See Insect Gods".
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/pc/dmtinsect.html

I have also covered the following stories in the Reality Carnival:
"Man Discovers Intelligent Beings After Consuming DMT,"
"The fleeting reality of DMT machine elves," and
"Psychedelics, Abortion, and the Chrysanthemum."
(Just scan through the Reality Carnival entries until you find these
stories.)
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/pc/dmt.html

-----END OF ENDLESS VERBAGE-----

FIRST ADDENDUM

(( MEANWHILE... [Circa: June 2010]... ))

Prof. Hawking most recently said that
Time Travel was only possible to the
future, because Time Travel to
the past is fraught with paradox.
He used the example of a man who
builds a time machine that takes him
back in time 2 minutes before he
'steps into the time machine.' If he
subsequently 'prevents' the man that
is his 'past self' from stepping into
the time machine, then the man who does
the time traveling cannot possibly
exist to perform this action. Paradox.
Therefore, Hawking admits that although
time travel to the past is impossible,
time travel to the future is easily done.
Simply approach the speed of light, and
as your clocks slow down, relative to the
outside, the reality outside speeds up.
Balance is compensated with relativity
in space-time. To be fair, Prof. Hawking
did not mention the notion of parallel
realities and bifurcating timelines.
The 'Parallel Universe' theory is the only
theory that allows time travel to the past,
but the illusion of 'past' time travel
is compensated for by leaving the timeline
entirely; so, technically, the past is
an illusion, merely another parallel
reality not within the timeline in which
you started. In other words, the only way
to travel backwards is to jump onto an
entirely different timeline which creates
the illusion of traveling backwards.
The arrow of time is not violated, and
you lose track of your original timeline,
existing thereafter in a parallel, seemingly
'past' timeline (assuming the reality isn't
completely divergent!) At its core, 'time'
really is illusory. Einstein said it
didn't really exist, but was a human
cognitive construct. All we ever really
know is now. We can only travel in the now,
creating various illusions along the way.

[SEE: 'Into The Universe with Stephen Hawking'
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/stephen-hawking/ ]

I guess that wonderful notion of 'us'
jumping into a time machine to take a
look at what Ezekiel saw way back when
and realizing he saw us in our time
machine, was really less about going
backwards and more about going SIDEWAYS
onto a parallel track where a parallel
Ezekiel existed contemporaneously with
'us.' Hmmmm... Quoting Saul Paul Sirag:

"There's been some speculation that the
Ezekiel vision was of what we today would
call a flying saucer. In other words, an
object of advanced technology.
It's hard to know one way or another,
but I've been wondering if it was not
a time machine of some sort. Recently
in Physical Review Abstracts (D 15 March
1974) there was a report [by Frank Tipler]
of the possibility of time travel by means
of a rotating cylinder. It would be odd
if we were to go in such a time machine
to visit Ezekiel's time and place.
We could do this, because we know the
day he saw his vision, since he carefully
recorded the time (a date equivalent to
July 5, 592 BCE give or take a day) and
place. It would be odd if in doing
this -- to have a peek at Ezekiel's
vision it turned out that what Ezekiel
saw was just us in our time machine
trying to have a peek at his vision."
-- Saul-Paul Sirag (May 1974)
home.netcom.com/~mthorn/quad4b.htm

So, in a Multiverse, given a near infinite number
of earths, (and Ezekiels), e.g. Earth Prime,
Earth^2, Earth^3, Earth^4... all at various
waveform manifestations with separate timelines,
we could conceivably convince ourselves of all
sorts of possibilities as they might apply to the
illusory nature of time travel. Perhaps we'll
figure this all out, in time...? AND...

Yes...
The curiosity of 'entropy,' light speed, time dilation,
etc., according to relativity, quite proven by GPS
satellite's onboard clocks slightly out of phase with
earth surface clocks, and myriad's of other cosmological,
quantum mechanical anti-intuitive shenanigans, verified;
time travel, apparently is limited to future travel
only... Curiouser and curiouser, however, the speed of
light is, yea verily, limited to approx. 186,000 miles
per second in 'SPACE' - lovely inflating invisible space,
created, it seems, following the inflationary big bang
dohicky, inflating, by the way, FASTER than the speed of
light! Is that not interesting? That space itself may
expand faster than the speed of light, while the light
within the superluminal inflation of space maintains
its photonic speed limit! Therefore, if one could
perhaps circumvent 'space,' one could circumvent the
speed of light? Definitely not a technology for
beginner fire apes. Seeya 'round the mountain!
"When She Comes...
She'll be Riding 6 White Horses,
She'll be Riding 6 White Horses,
She'll be Riding 6 White Horses,
"When She Comes... "
Which reminds me of the blood curdling gargoyles
stationed at the portal to the pylons of the Temple
of Cool Stuff specifically designed to occupy and
derange the minds of barely evolved primates in search
of specificity and shiny things. It gives them
something to gnash their teeth and shiver their timbers
over on the way toward enlightenment and non attachment
to such things as temples, gargoyles, monkeys, horse-
power, artificial intelligence, hyper-conspiratorial
gyrations of an anti-critical thinking mode, and other
amusements of a lucidly dreaming collective.
Then again... Never mind.

QuadFour - home.netcom.com/~mthorn/quad4.htm
NeuroWorld - home.netcom.com/~mthorn/neurwrld.htm

MT 22|JUNE|2010 CE | 4:08 AM | Earth Prime?
http://tinyurl.com/eyedead

P.S. I'm still trying to figure out how to travel from
here to there and back again without losing my marbles.

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So, I was reading Walter Isaacson's
'Einstein: His Life and Universe'
www.amazon.com/Einstein-Life-Universe-Walter-Isaacson/dp/0743264738
the other day, and in a chapter on Quantum Entanglement
I learned that Erwin Schrodinger and Albert E. were not
huge fans of the emerging quantum mechanics of the day;
although, Schrodinger had less difficulty with non-locality
than Einstein did, (Albert liked an empirical universe that
you could wrap your mind around, not that spooky-action-at-
a-distance dice game of uncertainty and inseparability);
they both teamed up to discredit some of the weirdities of
quantum mechanics, which gave birth to the 'Schrodinger's
Cat' mental experiment. Not being particularly bright, or
well enough read, I always assumed the 'cat experiment' was
somehow meant to reinforce quantum mechanic theories, when
it turns out to be quite the contrary. Albert started it
all with a scenario of gunpowder that would be triggered to
explode dependent upon an atomic doohicky, showing that the
gunpowder could not be simultaneously exploded or non-exploded
pending a viewer's perception of the matter. Erwin S. then
conceived the famous cat-in-a-box of acid connected to a
trigger mechanism in order to prove the absurdity of a cat
being both dead and alive pending some human's glimpse of the
waveform collapsing reality. And Albert even added a variation
with gunpowder instead of acid, so the cat (and box) cannot
possibly be both exploded and not exploded. This was their
way of dismantling the entire quantum/macro human observer
determining 'reality' scenario, which they thought was pretty
stupid, and anthropocentric to a maniacally egotistic degree,
(i.e. what about the cat's observation, or a flea's or
what-the-hell's 'other'?) But other than that, non-locality
eventually proved to be generally correct, under the premise
that two particles that interact, continue to simultaneously
reflect each other's state as a result of being a 'system'
regardless of so-called distance. But the existence of
'reality' being entirely due to human observation really
bugged both Erwin Schrodinger and Albert Einstein.
Can't say I really blame them.

And as far as Prof. Hawking's dismissal of traveling
backwards in time due to various grandfather paradoxes
like killing yourself 2 minutes before you step into
the '2 min. time machine' - subjectively, precluding a
shrug and/or a change of mind as outcome, thereby
eliciting all sorts of bizarro 'many-worlds' hypothetical
timeline jumping, consider the: "Equivalent Sets
of Histories and Multiple Quasiclassical Realms"
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9404013

Authors: Murray Gell-Mann,
James B. Hartle (Santa Fe Institute,
Los Alamos, and University of New Mexico)
(Submitted on 8 Apr 1994 (v1),
last revised 5 May 1996 (this version, v3))

Abstract: We consider notions of physical equivalence
of sets of histories in the quantum mechanics of a
closed system. We show first how the same set of
histories can be relabeled in various ways, including
the use of the Heisenberg equations of motion and of
passive transformations of field variables. In the
the usual approximate quantum mechanics of a measured
subsystem, two observables re- presented by different
Hermitian operators are physically distinguished by
the different apparatus used to measure them. In the
quantum mechanics of a closed system, however, any
apparatus is part of the system and the notion of
physically distinct situations has a different
character. We show that a triple consisting of an
initial condition, a Hamiltonian, and a set of
histories is physically equivalent to another triple
if the operators representing these initial
conditions, Hamiltonians, and histories are related
by any fixed unitary transformation. We apply this
result to the question of whether the universe might
exhibit physically inequivalent quasiclassical realms
(which we earlier called quasiclassical domains), not
just the one that includes familiar experience.
We describe how the probabilities of alternative
forms, behaviors, and evolutionary histories of
information gathering and utilizing systems (IGUSes)
using the usual quasiclassical realm could in
principle be calculated in quantum cosmology, although
it is, of course, impractical to perform the
computations. We discuss how, in principle, the
probabilities of occurence of IGUSes could be
calculated in realms distinct from the usual
quasiclassical one. We discuss how IGUSes adapted
mainly to two different realms could draw inferences
about each other using a hybrid realm consisting of
alternatives drawn from each.
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9404013

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Even so, that crazy 'double-slit experiment' nags
at the back of the mind wherein a measured outcome
seems to determine the prelude -- or your notion
that information may travel back in time -- which
once upon a time had me consider the following:

"In a Quasi-Parallel Multiverse, in the dimmest
recesses of ancient fore-history, there did manifest
a powerful, quantum computing device, located at
approximately 2/3rd radius along one arm of a spiral
galaxy. A cosmological variation on the double-slit
experiment arose:

"How about running a near infinite number of
simultaneous interdimensional 'big bang' simulations
with infinitesimal variations in each simulation to
determine the most novel, and long-lived, open-ended
scenario of survival; thereby selecting the specific
'history' of this advantageous pathway over all other
shorter-lived, 'extinction' pathways...?

"Could sporadic, sentient unhappiness and suffering
throughout the successful pathway be entirely
ruled out?" http://tinyurl.com/ba5s2
http://tinyurl.com/an3so

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To No0ne In Particular...

o0O0o

On, or around, Sept, 9th 2001, it was written:

"...Continuity of Consciousness, by definition,
presupposes that the perceptive core tracks
continuously across all parallel realities...
One femtosecond is to a second as one second is
to 32.6 million years! The 'Parallel Universe'
theory (Many-Worlds Theory) is a defunct
bastardization of an ill-perceived anthropocentric
misunderstanding of the double-slit experiment,
[Collapse of a Quantum Wave Function into a
Measurable Particle w/ History]:
In the 'Many Worlds' theory of quantum physics,
popularized by David Deutsch and others,
( http://www.qubit.org/people/david/ ), our conscious
selves inhabit an infinite realm of parallel
universes: a 'multiverse.' Now, over the many years
wherein we've all made countless decisions both
conscious and automatic, and the countless times
we've all pondered ending our own miserable
myriad existences, what if we actually did?
Would it, therefore, seem like a cruel fate for
consciousness to have no final escape from
awareness, perception, and embeddedness...?
And what if it's true?! Whooooooooooshhh!!!!
Is everyone the same biospheric personage? Are
we dispersed across an undifferentiated
light-cone of ultra-dimensional wavelike
potentiality in nature, and only specified
in particularity as a 3D lifeform?
( http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/ManyWorlds.html )
Who-are-we to suffer such an endless fate?
And what does it mean?!! What if there is a seamless
continuity to sentience, so that no matter how
many times you actually 'die,' your multiversal
"self" continues uninterrupted?"
[circa: Sept 9, 2001] http://tinyurl.com/History1977

See also: http://www.eelstheband.com/biography/index.php
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=hugh-everett-biography
__________________________________________________

o0O0o

READING In-between-the-lines therein,
above, a bit of a crisis, which made
the subsequent events - days later -
seem like a parallel life had been
embodied as the previous one seemed
to have possibly evaporated?
Cryptic? Yes, probably... but, point
being, the MindGland was not so
rigorous in delineating factual data
in a subsequently accurate manner.
Which is my convoluted, elaborate
excuse for presuming such erroneous
trans-temporal back-engineered loopy
mentations of multidimensionality!

Glad to have caught up with your
enormously talented real self? again!

Warmest Regards,

<>
<> "This is the awe-inspiring universe of magic:
<> There are no atoms, only waves and motions
<> all around. Here, you discard all belief in
<> barriers to understanding. You put aside
<> understanding itself. This universe cannot
<> be seen, cannot be heard, cannot be detected
<> in any way by fixed perceptions.
<> It is the ultimate void where no preordained
<> screens occur upon which forms may be projected.
<> You have only one awareness here - the screen
<> of the magi: Imagination!
<> Here, you learn what it is to be human.
<> You are a creator of order, of beautiful
<> shapes and systems, an organizer of chaos."
<> --Frank Herbert - Heretics of Dune -
http://tinyurl.com/Portals-Doors-Towers
http://tinyurl.com/EIGHT-X-EIGHT
http://tinyurl.com/History1977
[...]

The Danger of Disclosure
Thursday May 6th, 2010
by Whitley Strieber
www.unknowncountry.com/journal/?id=416

[...]

One Year Ago...
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The Art of Persuasive Discourse : http://tinyurl.com/m8rqwq

~o0-O-0o~

"The anarchic principle follows from quantum
mechanics, which tells us that all particle
interactions that can happen will happen.
In quantum field theory, everything that is
not forbidden will occur." -- Lisa Randall, Ph.D.

Page 228 of:
WARPED PASSAGES - Unraveling The Mysteries
Of The Universe's Hidden Dimensions. Copyright (c) 2005
http://physics.harvard.edu/people/facpages/randall.html
ISBN-10: 0-06-053109-6 (pbk.)

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"The smallness of Planck's constant--which governs the
strength of quantum effects--and the intrinsic weakness
of the gravitational force team up to yield a result
called the Planck length, which is small almost beyond
imagination: a millionth of a billionth of a billionth
of a billionth of a centimeter (10^-33 centimeter)...
To get a sense of scale, if we were to magnify an atom
to the size of the known universe, the Planck length
would barely expand to the height of an average tree."
The Elegant Universe - Superstrings, Hidden Dimensions,
and the Quest for the Ultimate Theory by Brian Greene
(c) 1999, 2003 ISBN 0-375-70811-1 (Pg 130)
www.columbia.edu/cu/physics/fac-bios/Greene/faculty.html

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Peter Woit, Ph.D. writes:
For some hype-free LHC predictions based on
serious science that I fully endorse, see Resonaances,*
where the probability of seeing anything relevant to
string theory isn't even listed, and supersymmetry is
given a one-tenth of one percent chance, on the grounds:

1% is a typical fine-tuning of susy models,
and the additional factor of .1 is because
it makes me puke.

which seems about right. The probability of the LHC
producing black holes is given as something exponentially
small, somewhat less than the probability of
producing dragons.

http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=899

* 'What will the LHC discover' by Peter Woit, Ph.D.
http://resonaances.blogspot.com/2008/09/what-will-lhc-discover.html
Excerpt:
[...]
Higgs boson. Probability 80%
Non-SM Higgs boson. Probability 50%
New Beyond SM Particles. Probability 50%
Strong Interactions. Probability 20%
Dark matter. Probability 5%
Little Higgs and friends. Probability 1%
Supersymmetry. Probability 0.1%
Dragons. Probability $e^{-S_{dragon}}$
Black Holes. Probability $0.1*e^{-S_{dragon}}$
[...]
http://resonaances.blogspot.com/2008/09/what-will-lhc-discover.html

[PETER WOIT is the author of: 'NOT EVEN WRONG: The Failure
of String Theory and the Search for Unity in Physical Law']
URL: http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/
BOOK: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465092756

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"...Negative Capability, that is, when a man is capable
of being in uncertainties, mysteries, doubts, without
any irritable reaching after fact and reason" (Bion, 1970).

Negative capability ... [a concept] that prefigured Bion's
later idea of transformations in "O," by which he meant a
domain that is beyond sensing, imagining, or knowing.
One just becomes "O." In order to achieve a resonance with
this unknowable domain either within oneself and/or in
relationship to the other as subject, one must have
patience that clarity will ultimately arrive with the
destined selected fact and that coherence will emerge.
http://www.enotes.com/psychoanalysis-encyclopedia/negative-capability

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=BION%2C

- - - - -=O)

My loquacious, garrulous left cerebral hemisphere
had a rather circumspect verbose soliloquy, whereupon
Owlsley The Artificial Intelligence of yesteryear[1]
masquerading as a corpus collosum did manage a flight
or two across the vast expanse of brain matter to establish
a neurological dialogue of sorts with my quieter, in-the-now,
oceanic mode, visual-oriented synaesthetic euphoric right
cerebral hemisphere. We, They, Them, Us, and/or I reflected
as a whole upon our time with the biosphere...

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On the outskirts of a city there's a reservoir in a
watershed among hills and trees. Sometimes late at night,
I'll drive along the narrow winding road just to see the
wildlife that comes out: owls, raccoons, foxes, bobcats,
skunks, but mostly deer come out to wander near the road's
edge. I always drive the posted 25 MPH speed limit because
I'm never in a hurry on this heavily populated watershed
at night under the trees, clouds and stars. Sometimes along
the shoulder a deer will watch the oncoming headlights.
I always lower my highbeams for their eyes as if they are
drivers themselves. Occasionally, I get a sense that they
register something otherworldly in their experience, as a
pair of lights approach, dim, pass by with a whoosh of air
and Doppler shifting receding sound.
I'm almost willing to say that there are some deer who
specifically settle in on this road's edge just to see the
night lights. Not everyone drives the speed limit, the
results are saddening but fortunately rare in number, and
roadkill is quickly consumed.
The deer that do play this game of observation intrigue me.
I wonder what occurs for them neurologically, physiologically,
to see these strange lights at night? If they could somehow
integrate the sensory awareness of another species' technology
into their lives, how would they do it? What tools would they
employ to even remember?
I suspect they would be confined to using only the tools of
their own world; not the tools of halogen bulbs, direct
current, transmissions, and auto manufacturers.
The raccoons, however, I think might be up to something,
what with their opposable thumbs and secretive,
aggressive ways. --MT, Thor's Day, 21 May 2009
home.netcom.com/~mthorn/zooo1999.htm

P.S. Someone, Winifred Grace Barton, an 86 year old
woman [now 87] in Ontario, Canada, recently sent
me this YouTube link...

Thousand-Hand Guan Yin

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=xgHmSdpjEIk

....to which I replied:

Dearest Bodhisattva of Compassion,
Ultraterrestrial Prankster High-Priestess,
Mahatma Winifred Grace Barton :

Thank you for that. Tat Tvam Asi.
Unfortunately, my archaic dinosaur 'puter with un-upgradeable
software is not up to the task of playing the YouTube video,
but 'Google' always comes in handy:

"As long as you are kind and there is love in your heart
A thousand hands will naturally come to your aid
As long as you are kind and there is love in your heart
You will reach out with a thousand hands to help others"
-- Zhang Jigang, (born December 25, 1958)...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Jigang
....the choreographer of 'Thousand-Hand Guan Yin'
http://www.taoism.net/guanyin/home.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guan_Yin

QUOTE:

Guan Yin is the bodhisattva of compassion,
http://www.taoism.net/guanyin/home.htm
revered by Buddhists as the Goddess of Mercy.
Her name is short for Guan Shi Yin. Guan means
to observe, watch, or monitor; Shi means the
world; Yin means sounds, specifically sounds
of those who suffer. Thus, Guan Yin is a
compassionate being who watches for, and
responds to, the people in the world who cry
out for help.

Bodhi means wisdom or enlightenment; sattva means
being or essence. Put the two together and you get
bodhisattva, a being who is enlightened and ready
to transcend the cycles of birth and death, but
chooses to return to the material world in order
to help other people reach the same level of
enlightenment. This is the ultimate demonstration
of pure compassion.
[...]
There is a phenomenon sweeping through Asia which is still
relatively unknown in the West. [...] It is a stunning
stage performance called Thousand-Hand Guan Yin.
[...]
The most incredible thing about the performance is that
all the dancers are deaf. They are members of the
China Disabled People's Performing Art Troupe.
None of them can hear the music - this makes their
choreography a truly amazing achievement.
The difficulties and challenges they encountered
in training are beyond imagining.
[...]
http://www.taoism.net/guanyin/home.htm

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Meanwhile...

I was recently thinking about the 'vow'
that a Bodhisattva makes. A somewhat daunting,
down right terrifying sort of vow, to renounce
nirvana, final extinction, etc. for the sake of
any and all remaining conscious sentient beings
trapped in unrelenting cyclic bondage to material
reality - to remain in the cycle to help them out
of the cycle, a concept in itself, perhaps, a bit
narcissistic if it isn't truly 'selfless', which
raises all sorts of complicated psychological
meanderings of the mind. Years ago, in my mind's eye,
I imagined a short story (never wrote anything down)
about a truly ancient Bodhisattva who had returned
so many gawd damn times to whatever hell hole existence
that was populated by stubborn sentient beings, that
he (or she) was a bit frayed around the edges, worn out,
tired, having second, third, etc. thoughts about the
'old vow', thinking maybe about 'blowing off the whole
enterprise' to youthful-soul folly, wondering maybe
about forgetting the 'vow' and moving on. I think I
placed this tired Bodhisattva as the owner of a coin-
operated Laundromat in a dingy city. I don't recall
if it had any sort of tangible plot, just the basic
idea. It would make an interesting play or movie in
the right hands, maybe Zhang Jigang, David Lynch, and
Charlie Kaufman the guy who wrote Being John Malkovich.
Anyway, only someone trapped in samsaric illusory
material universe sentient looniness would even
conceive of such a goofy scenario, therefore, I bow
my head to thee, dearest Bodhisattva of Compassion,
Ultraterrestrial Prankster High Priestess, Mahatma
Winifred Grace Barton, a true example of a contemporary
Bodhisattva of Egyptological Initiatory Contactee
Experience who never fails to make one's heart smile.

Catch ya later. --MT, Present Moment.

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<<snip>>

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________________________O________________________

NOTE: A sense of 'self' is acquired over time as one
encounters and interacts with other people. Other people
act as mirrors to the self. All these aspects of self go
into making up identity. In extended isolation, one begins
living off the memory of previous interactions in order
to keep the self going. One cannot live on memory alone.
Early in life, one's capacity for interaction and self
creation, (how one regards one's self while mirroring
another person), develops according to primary role models,
care givers, family, friends, acquaintances, strangers, etc.

Every single person you encounter in life presents an aspect
of the self that is discovered through self awareness during
interaction with that person. Collectively, the entirety of
these bits of self are combined into a Vessel, being the
entirety of self at any given time that lives in the world.
This notion of a 'Vessel' is what inspired the brief tale
I wrote. Thanks. --MT
home.netcom.com/~mthorn/neurwrld.htm

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See also: "After a Stroke, a Scientist Studies Herself : NPR"
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91861432
AND: 'My Stroke of Insight-A Brain Scientist's Personal Journey'
by Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor http://drjilltaylor.com/
http://www.amazon.com/My-Stroke-Insight-Scientists-Personal/dp/1430300612

See also:
'Wesley The Owl' by Stacey O'Brien
http://www.amazon.com/Wesley-Owl-Remarkable-Love-Story/dp/1416551735

SECOND ADDENDUM
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"No memory, no desire and no understanding." W.R. Bion

W.R. Bion
A Seminar held in Paris
July 10th 1978
http://www.psychoanalysis.org.uk/bion78.htm

Excerpt: [...]
http://www.psychoanalysis.org.uk/bion78.htm

Q. Would you say something about what you have
described as a catastrophic situation.

Bion: The word 'catastrophe' has also to
be understood in the light of something which
goes in the opposite direction. I think of
it as 'breaking down' which is very close to
the metaphor, 'breaking up'.

In an analytic situation the analyst is
concerned with trying to make conscious,
trying to bring to awareness something which
the patient has often spent his life trying
to make unconscious. There are two people in
the room who come together at the same time,
in the same place, but the directions in
which they are thinking are different.
They could agree if the analyst consented to
become very disturbed and afflicted with the
same kind of neurosis or psychosis as the
patient, but it is usually supposed that the
analyst should not lose his capacity for
being aware of the world of reality, although
he may be drawing attention to a world of a
different form of reality. The simplest
example I can give is this: we are in the
state of mind which is usually known as being
awake or conscious and aware of what is
taking place - so we think. But when we are
asleep we are in a different state of mind.
This division into day and night is not very
illuminating, but I think it is useful if
one can retain the valuable quality of being
able to go to sleep, as well as the valuable
quality of being able to wake up.
That 'marriage' often seems not to be
harmonious. For example, patients may admit
that they had a dream but they don't take it
seriously; they don't feel disposed to tell
you where they dreamt and what they saw.
They say, 'Oh, I just dreamt it'.

I don't know why they 'just dreamt it'.
If the acorn said, 'Oh, they're just roots',
what would one think? After all, even an
acorn on an oak owes something to the roots.
So what is one to make of a patient who
thinks he 'just dreamt it'? Freud considered
that dreams ought to be treated with
respect - I think that is the most important
part of his work, but I don't believe we
have got anywhere near to reaping the
consequences of treating dreams with respect.
[...]
http://www.psychoanalysis.org.uk/bion78.htm

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Wilfred R.. Bion, 1897-1979
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfred_Bion
http://knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Wilfred_Bion/

W.R. Bion
A Seminar held in Paris
July 10th 1978
http://www.psychoanalysis.org.uk/bion78.htm

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Beckett and Bion
by Steven Connor
This paper was written for the Beckett and
London conference which took place at
Goldsmiths College, London in 1998.
http://www.bbk.ac.uk/english/skc/beckbion/

EXCERPT:

-------------------------------------------------------

The ascertainable facts about [Samuel] Beckett's period of
psychoanalysis with Wilfred Bion are, like the prayers of the
lukewarm soul, faint and few.
Beckett was a young man of 27 who had taken the first steps
in his literary career, with the publication of 'Whoroscope',
Proust, Echo's Bones and, shortly after beginning analysis,
More Pricks Than Kicks. After his years of promise and freedom
at the Ecole Normale, during which time he came to know Joyce
and begun to make out a reputation and literary career for
himself, Beckett had suffered a series of reverses. The terms
of his fellowship required him to return to teach at Trinity
College Dublin; Beckett loathed teaching and quickly sank into
his characteristic condition of shabby apathy and depression.
During the year, his father, who seemed to have been an
important counterweight to his domineering, demanding mother,
died of a heart attack. It may be that Beckett experienced
this as a confirmation of the loss of his second father, Joyce,
who had broken angrily with him after Beckett's abortive affair
with Lucia, who was herself sinking more and more inexorably
into illness. Beckett underwent something very like a breakdown;
he resigned his fellowship at Trinity, and it seemed he would be
unable to make a living as long as he was in Ireland.
His depression expressed itself in endless unshiftable colds
and flu, boils and cysts and panic attacks accompanied by
palpitations and sensations of suffocation. He was persuaded
by his friend Geoffrey Thompson that his symptoms might be of
psychosomatic origin and managed to persuade his mother in turn
to let him come to London in late 1933 specifically in order to
undertake analysis. Early in 1934 he began therapy at the
Tavistock Clinic with Wilfred Bion (Knowlson 1996, 175-81).
[...]
http://www.bbk.ac.uk/english/skc/beckbion/

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Bion's O - An Open Gate between Eastern and Western Psychotherapy
Tel Aviv University
Psychotherapy Program
Bion Forum
(c) Jonathan Harrison, 2006
http://www.simplymeditate.org/?p=57
[...]
Truth and reality

Bion (1970) used O as a sign for experience,
ultimate reality, the thing-in-itself, or truth.
In Bion's terms, nondual therapy can be described
as facilitating the student's access to O, and
then encouraging him/her to extend that being.
Fenner (2003) stated, "The function of nondual
therapy is to introduce people to the unconditioned
aspect of their existence and then deepen and
stabilize the experience."

Alan Watts (1973) stated that spiritual work and
meditation are about connecting to reality.
He explained that this is necessary as in general
we are not in contact with reality because we
confuse reality with the way we think about it.
Consequently we try to manipulate things, hold on
to things we like and get rid of things we do not
like, unaware that these 'things' have no inherent
existence and are only thoughts. The resultant
inevitable failure leads to the so-called negative
emotions such as frustration, anger, impotence,
envy, loss of control, fear and degraded self-image.

So Bion's fascination for me is in his attempt to
touch the truth. This is what he meant by O, the
ineffable truth of experience, including ourselves
and the world in which we think we live.
In particular Bion was interested, as are all
psychoanalysts, in the mind of the analysand,
which he knew he did not and could never know.
He commented in his prologue to A Memoir of the
Future (Bion, 1991), "The definitory hypothesis is
intended to be taken and applied in all seriousness
in the practice of psycho-analysis by those who wish
to confront what they believe to be 'facts', as near
to noumena as the human animal is likely to get.
This may be 'never'; with Kant, I hold that the
thing-in-itself is unknowable."
[...]
http://www.simplymeditate.org/?p=57

Bion's unstructured listening

Bion's no memory, no desire seem to me to
allude to something similar, although not
identical, to Buddhist wisdom, essential
for the ideal of containment. He believed
that, "...it is easier to 'forget' what you
know and 'forget' what you want, get rid of
your desires, anticipations and also your
memories so that there will be a chance of
hearing these very faint sounds that are buried
in this mass of noise." (Bion, 2005).
He recommended (Bion, 1970) that, "In every
session the psycho-analyst should be able...to
be aware of the aspects of the material that,
however familiar they may seem to be, relate to
what is unknown both to him and to the analysand.
Any attempt to cling to what he knows must be
resisted for the sake of achieving a state of
mind analogous to the paranoid-schizoid position.
For this state I have coined the term 'patience',
to distinguish it from 'paranoid-schizoid position',
which should be left to describe the pathological
state for which Melanie Klein used it. I mean the
term to retain its association with suffering and
tolerance of frustration..."'Patience' should be
retained without 'irritable reaching after fact
and reason' until a pattern 'evolves'. This state
is the analogue to what Melanie Klein has called
the depressive position. For this state I use the
term 'security'. This I mean to leave with its
association of safety and diminished anxiety.
....a sense of achievement of a correct
interpretation will be commonly be found to be
followed almost immediately by a sense
of depression."
[...]
http://www.simplymeditate.org/?p=57

Reality and illusions

To become O means resting in the unconditioned mind.
Nothing special is required, just to rest quietly
and relax in the deep realization that, as the
Dzogchen master Namkhai Norbu (1984) explained,
"All phenomena which are seen or heard, however
many of them there may be, are like so many false
images, even though they may appear to be very
diverse. Thus we can conclusively determine that
they are merely a magical display of the mind...
The nature of the mind is from the very beginning
empty and without a self."

Buddha said, "We are what we think. All that we
are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts
we make the world." Bion (1970) stated similarly
but in different terminology, "The analyst must
focus his attention on O, the unknown and
unknowable. The success of psycho-analysis depends
on the maintenance of a psycho-analytic point
of view; the point of view is the psycho-analytic
vertex; the psycho-analytic vertex is O. With this
the analyst cannot be identified: he must be it.
Every object known or knowable by man, including
himself, must be an evolution of O. It is O when
it has evolved sufficiently to be met by K capacities
in the psycho-analyst. He does not know the
'ultimate reality' of a chair, anxiety, time and
space, but he knows a chair, anxiety, time and
space." Here Bion distinguishes explicitly
between concepts (K) and the reality they purport
to represent (O). Whereas being O signifies
resting in the unconditioned mind, K signifies
knowledge, concepts, mental structures, the
conditioned mind.
[...]
http://www.simplymeditate.org/?p=57

Summary

I have tried to indicate some areas where Bion,
as a western psychoanalyst, views the mind and
reality in some ways similar to those of those
of eastern nondual psychotherapy. If this gateway
is sensitively explored it may have a potential
for greater understanding beyond both eastern and
western psychotherapies, synergizing the ancient
and deep eastern appreciation of reality and
nondual "being" with western achievements in
mental model building. This synergy could encourage
the use of psychoanalytic models, but with humility,
as Bion clearly intended, that is without stumbling
and actually believing in them. Models and theories
represent our efforts to relate to reality,
not reality itself. The distinction is vital
for mental health and peaceful human cooperation,
the reduction of racism and war and the tolerance
of pluralism. Bion's main contribution to the art
of psychoanalysis may have indeed been humility,
without which compassion and true healing are
probably impossible.
http://www.simplymeditate.org/?p=57

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Bion (1991). A Memoir of the Future.
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Bion, W. (2005).The Tavistock Seminars.
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Eigen, M. (2004). The Electrified Tightrope.
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Ehrlich, S. (2003). Experience--What is it?
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Fenner, P. (2003). In Prendergast J.,
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Freud, S. (1912). Recommendations to
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the Way of Abiding. Junction City: Padma Publishing

Norbu, N. (1984). The Cycle of Day and Night.
New York: Station Hill

Ray, R.A. (2001). Secret of the Vajra World.
Boston: Shambhala

Rubin, J. (2005). Psychotherapy and Buddhism.
New York: Plenum

Seng Ts'an (c. 550), the third Chinese Patriarch
of the Cha'an School, in the gatha:
"Have Faith in Your Mind"

Watts, A (1973). Alan Watts Teaches Meditation.
Los Angeles: Audio Renaissance Tapes.

http://www.simplymeditate.org/?p=57

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"When you meet the Buddha, you kill the Buddha" - Shahid Najeeb

Issue #4 - December 2003
Seeking the spirit of psychoanalysis
This paper was presented as a public lecture
of the APAS on 28 August 2003 in Sydney
http://www.psychoanalysisdownunder.com/downunder/backissues/issue4/355/when_you_meet

EXCERPT:
[...]
The marrow of psychoanalysis

The marrow of Bodhidharma was inherited by his
disciple Hui-k'o, who in fact went on to become
the second patriarch of the Zen school. As we
have seen Hui-k'o expressed his understanding
by his profound silence. It is expressed in silence
because words and symbols, no matter how expressive,
cannot accurately convey the essence of the
understanding. Words have as much a capacity to
distort meaning as they have to convey it, as much
capacity to block understanding as they have
to facilitate it.

If we are to accurately understand the essence
of psychoanalysis, then it will have to be an
understanding that is beyond words, indeed beyond
any sense modality. Bion said that we have to
'intuit' the truth of psychoanalytic experience.
He said if we are to have any chance of being
able to so, we must rid our minds of all conceptual
frameworks. We must divest ourselves of frameworks
of the past, called 'memory', or frameworks about
the future, called 'desire'.

I need to clarify that Bion's silence is not
the absence of sound. It is only the absence
of noise in much the same spirit that artists
quietly produce while the rest of us prattle
on noisily about creativity. Only if we have
the capacity to stand quietly like Hui-k'o,
our minds empty of all thoughts, concepts
and noise, then and only then can we intuit
the truth of psychoanalytic experience,
which is what the whole complex structure
of psychoanalysis rests upon. Intuition
thus is the essence, the very marrow,
of psychoanalysis.

Once upon a time psychoanalysts talked about
'transference' by which were meant the
unconscious endowments of the psychoanalyst
with features from the analysand's past.
Then psychoanalysts talked about the
'countertransference', which were the
internal experiences of the psychoanalyst
that were the counterpart of the transference
feelings and sometimes produced by them.
When we talk about the intuitive aspects of
psychoanalysis we include both transference
and countertransference feelings but we tend
now to think of them as being different
dimensions of a shared experience.
This experience is usually enacted and
misunderstood by both participants till it is
intuitively grasped and understood.
Sometimes the intuitive understanding is there
right from the beginning but we fail to
recognize it, till it forces itself upon us
and we have no choice but to see it, understand
it and hopefully use it. More often is something
that is ill-formed, ill-defined, fleeting,
ephemeral and almost always gives us reason to
relegate it to the unlikely, the irrelevant,
the magical and the fantastic.
Intuitive understanding is hard to formulate.
It has something to do with feelings and
patterns or perhaps patterns of feelings.
These patterns probably keep recurring till
they press themselves on our awareness and
can then be recognized. Sometimes it is
contained in images and unlikely fantasies
and sometimes it is contained in behaviour
that we recognize as being stupid but
unexplained. But whatever it is and however
we are able to grasp it, I think most
psychoanalysts would agree that it is the
essence of meaningful psychoanalytic experience.
[...]
http://www.psychoanalysisdownunder.com/downunder/backissues/issue4/355/when_you_meet

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GROUP RELATIONS: AN INTRODUCTION
MAKING ABSENCES PRESENT:
THE CONTRIBUTION OF W. R. BION
TO UNDERSTANDING UNCONSCIOUS SOCIAL PHENOMENA
by David Armstrong
http://www.human-nature.com/group/chap3.html

[...]
When he was working as a psychiatrist at The Tavistock Clinic
before the Second World War, a young, highly talented but so
far rather unproductive Irish writer, came to see Bion as a patient.
The writer was Samuel Beckett. At the time Beckett had published
a study of Proust and a few short stories and poems, but little else.
Later, after he had left treatment, he was to begin working on the
unique, strange, unfamiliar sequence of novels and plays that
made his name.
[...]
http://www.human-nature.com/group/chap3.html

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Dialectical Behavioral Therapy [DBT]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_behavior_therapy
QUOTE:
"Dialectical behavior therapy (DBT) is a psychological
method developed by Marsha M. Linehan, a psychology
researcher at the University of Washington, to treat
persons with borderline personality disorder (BPD).
DBT combines standard cognitive-behavioral techniques for
emotion regulation and reality-testing with concepts of
mindful awareness, distress tolerance, and acceptance
largely derived from Buddhist meditative practice.
DBT is the first therapy that has been experimentally
demonstrated to be effective for treating BPD.
Research indicates that DBT is also effective in treating
patients who represent varied symptoms and behaviors
associated with spectrum mood disorders, including
self-injury. The key elements of DBT are conventional
behavioral therapy and cognitive therapy, along with its
signature concepts of dialectics and mindfulness.
Dialectical thinking, similar to its role in philosophy,
is introduced as an alternative to intense, polarized emotions.
Rather than reacting to events as either perfect or unbearable,
patients are encouraged to recognize multiple viewpoints and
bring them "into dialogue." Mindfulness is taught as a method
for becoming aware of one's actual, realistic experience in
the moment, and separating it from fears about the future or
rumination about events about the past." [...] Cont.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_behavior_therapy

Dialectical Behavioral Therapy
http://behavioraltech.org/resources/mindfulness.cfm
QUOTE:
"Mindfulness Skills have emerged as an important focus
of several empirically supported treatments.
Dialectical Behavior Therapy for borderline personality
disorder, mindfulness-based cognitive behavior therapy
for depression, and mindfulness-based stress reduction
are based in mindfulness. The roots of mindfulness
practice are in the contemplative practices common to
both eastern and western spiritual disciplines and to
the emerging scientific knowledge about the benefits
of 'allowing' experiences rather than suppressing or
avoiding them. Mindfulness in its totality has to do
with the quality of awareness that a person brings to
everyday living; learning to control your mind, rather
than letting your mind control you. Mindfulness as a
practice directs your attention to only one thing,
and that one thing is the moment you are living in.
When you recognize the moment, what it looks like,
feels like, tastes like, sounds like -- you are
being mindful. Further, mindfulness is the process
of observing, describing, and participating in reality
in a non-judgmental manner, in the moment and with
effectiveness. At the same time, mindfulness is the
window to acceptance, freedom, and wisdom."
http://behavioraltech.org/resources/mindfulness.cfm

Mindfulness in psychotherapy: an introduction
http://apt.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/full/13/2/147

The Miracle of Mindfulness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracle_of_Mindfulness
by Thich Nhat Hanh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thich_Nhat_Hanh

_/~_/~_/~_/~_/~_/~_/~_/~_/~_/~_/~

It's always just NOW.
Or as that weird Munchkin, E c k h a r t T o l l e,
likes to pontificate: "Stillness Speaks: When you lose
touch with inner stillness, you lose touch with yourself.
When you lose touch with yourself, you lose yourself in
the world. Your innermost sense of self, of who you are,
is inseparable from stillness. This is the I Am that is
deeper than name and form. [...] Nothing that comes and
goes is you. 'I am bored.' Who knows this? 'I am angry,
sad, afraid.' Who knows this? You are the knowing,
not the condition that is known."
http://www.eckharttolle.com/

Eckhart Tolle -- "The Power of Now" :::
If you cannot be at ease with yourself when
you are alone, you will seek a relationship to
cover up your unease.
You can be sure that the unease will then reappear
in some other form within the relationship, and
you will probably hold your partner responsible for it.
All you really need to do is accept this moment fully.
You are then at ease in the here and now and at
ease with yourself.
But do you need to have a relationship with yourself
at all? Why can't you just be yourself?
When you have a relationship with yourself, you have
split yourself into two: "I" and "myself," subject
and object. That mind-created duality is the root cause
of all unnecessary complexity, of all problems and
conflict in your life. In the state of enlightenment,
you are yourself - "you' and "yourself" merge into one.
You do not judge yourself, you do not feel sorry for
yourself, you are not proud of yourself, you do not
love yourself, you do not hate yourself, and so on.
The split caused by self reflective consciousness
is healed, its curse removed. There is no "self"
that you need to protect, defend, or feed anymore.
When you are enlightened, there is one relationship
that you no longer have: the relationship with yourself.
Once you have given that up, all your other relationships
will be love relationships. ::: -- Eckhart Tolle
"The Power of Now" Chapter 8
http://eckharttolle.com/

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"... JEHOVAH 1 is a VENGEFUL GOD OF WRATH!
JEHOVAH 1 - a.k.a. YAHWEH - is a mad alien,
full of eyes round about, He cometh with the
clouds, radioactive, all-pervading, He has
forged His covenant with the SubGenius
in CHAINS of GENETIC PROGRAMMING and DEMANDS
OBEISANCE to His caveman sense of humor.
He has been denying us SLACK and what He is
making us do dates back to Homo Connectus,
First Whole Man; only by letting our bodies
obey the Code of financial lust survival
that is built into them can our brains
be freed from his INEVITABLE FIST."
http://www.subgenius.com/pam1/pamphlet_p4.html

"You are the knowing, not the condition
that is known." --Eckhart Tolle
http://www.eckharttolle.com/

"Think of timespace as a multidimensional
self-perfecting system in which everything
that has ever, or will ever occur, occurs
simultaneously. I believe timespace is a
kind of object, a geometrical supersolid.
I believe it may even be a type of hologram
in which energy and matter are byproducts
of the overlapping of two higher systems..."
--Takashi
http://mathnt.mat.jhu.edu/new/

Oil and Gas International: http://www.oilandgasinternational.com/

"Having profoundly modified space and time, and become,
in turn, modified by them, we are gradually evolving from
three-dimensional Euclidean beings into dwellers of the four
dimensional, non-Euclidean, space-time universe of
Dr. Einstein. We are parallel lines approaching infinity.
Those who make themselves at home in this new
universe will be the Homers, Dantes, Leonardos and
Michelangelos of tomorrow."-- William L. Laurence

'Who' perceives this?

Mumon's Twelve Zen Warnings.

1. To observe rules and regulations is to tie oneself
without a rope.
2. To act freely and without restraint is heresy
and deviltry.
3. To recognize mind and purify it is the false zen
of silent sitting.
4. To allow oneself freedom and to ignore
interrelating conditions is to fall into the pit.
5. To always be alert and clear is to wear chains
and an iron yoke.
6. To think of good and evil is to be in heaven
and hell.
7. To have a Buddha view and a Dharma view is to be
confined in two iron mountains.
8. To realize a thought as soon as it arises is to
exhaust one's energy.
9. To sit blankly in quietism is the zen of a corpse.
10. If you advance you will deviate from the principle.
11. If you retreat you will be against the truth.
12. If you neither advance nor retreat you are a
dead man breathing.

Now tell me, what will you do?
Make the utmost effort to attain completely realization
in this life. Do not let yourself circulate karma forever.
---Yamada Mumon Roshi
http://www.zmc.org/
http://www.bigmind.org/
http://www.shambhalasun.com/
http://onedropzendo.org/mumon.htm

~ Interspecies Global Mind ~
"...It is said that we have enraged nature by tearing at
the pattern of her tracery, and for this transgression we
shall be punished mightily. But we are nature incarnate.
We are made up of her molecules and cells.
We are tools of her probings and if, indeed, we suffer and
we fail, from our lessons she will learn which way in the
future not to turn. For all that lives and all that ever has
is part of a collective brain, a neural net of the most
sprawling kind...an evolution-driven, worldwide,
multi-billion-year-old interspecies mind."
[] From: The History of the Global Brain XX
http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/6/6556/1.html
________________________________________________

Robert Anton Wilson wrote:

"As Thomas Huxley said, the universe acts
a lot like a chess game in which the player
on the other side remains invisible to us.
By analyzing the moves, we try to form an
image of the intellect behind them.
Images that have seemed almost believable
to me at various times have included the
gods and goddesses of ancient Greece (if you
develop a Classic Poetry habit, that kind of
neurolinguistic programming can happen...)
and also, of course, those extra-terrestrials
who have so much popularity these days.
I have also considered the player on the
other side as more impersonal, like the Tao,
or more bizarre, like Shiva Dancing, or more
abstract, like Philip K. Dick's Vast Active
Living Information System (VALIS.)
Mostly, though I think of the player on the
other side as a pookah -- a resident of Ireland,
in rabbit form, who may at any time dump a
truckload of the Unknown and Inexplicable right
on your doorstep." --Robert Anton Wilson
http://www.rawilson.com/index.html
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[1.] Owlsley The Artificial Intelligence of yesteryear:
http://home.netcom.com/~mthorn/fractal.htm

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Trust your dream.

LowRider44M

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It's about running a fair table.
The Girl trusts me and me alone.
I'll make a honest women of her yet.
I wanted to marry her and keep her heart forever,
She still hasn't made up her mind and that's very Young Woe-Manish.


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.dreams.castaneda/browse_thread/thread/5596188891aea02b/e2dbb9f49d5b3382?hl=en&q=#e2dbb9f49d5b3382

Liberty Trumps Equality
Verses / G & P / Adjust
Equality Trumps Liberty


Extrapolated Quadratically
Forms Computational Spheres
Various Trump Cards as: Vs. - Guides&Protects - Trumps

Certainly you weren't suggesting I rewind the tape to 07-09-2008.
You have a good outline for a great story and I think it shall be a
real blockbuster.

Now...

Gentleman I want a good clean fight, nothing below the belt.
Two knees to the canvas is a mandatory PBA Standing Eight count.
Retire to your corners and when the bell rings come out ready to
fight.


All Ways Vs. No Ways
Me I'm the referee/piano player.
Been everywhere, done everything.
Saved all the Tee Shirts to remember.


Lt. Aoclazteuq

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On Jul 24, 8:32 am, LowRider44M wrote:
> Trust your dream.

Haven't quite pulled-the-plug yet,
will soon definitely be off-line
by this evening, and for unknown
duration... Wish to say this bit
about a recurring subtext that
seems clear as glass that refuses
to be psychoanalyzed, which I could
not do anyway, even if I tried. To
paraphrase: at 4-6 you were at Y,
then decided on X, or vice versa
depending on interpretation of
exponents. In other words, at the
core, the current oscillates,
alternating, and as such, how one
relates to certain kinds of data
will unmistakably be tinged
accordingly - in some cases,
preternaturally dead on accurate,
and in others stone cold wrong,
or better stated, unilaterally
accurate specific to the perceiver's
set of internal mechanisms tuned
according to experience. Having
said that, your 'wrong' is usually
so damn interesting that it tends
to fascinate and be infinitely better
than most people's 'right' - Hah!
It is never important to me, or to
anyone else who is an honest student
of the 'Almighty True Mystery,'
wherefore goest your current, because
your genius for creative complexity
tinged with searing honesty is
righteously tuned into base-line
consciousness, and it's an honor
to observe and be inspired enough
to respond like a trouble-free child
in a playground with all the time
in the world. So, thanks man. The days
ahead are going to be very, very
difficult indeed, as they always are,
and always will be. I appreciate this
brief exchange and wish you the best.
As a native of Oakland, I will always
regard the city with ambivalent joy!
http://home.netcom.com/~mthorn/index.htm


LowRider44M

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On Jul 24, 11:08 pm, "Lt. Aoclazteuq" <snake_4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 8:32 am, LowRider44M wrote:
>
> > Trust your dream.
>
> Haven't quite pulled-the-plug yet,
> will soon definitely be off-line
> by this evening, and for unknown
> duration... Wish to say this bit
> about a recurring subtext that
> seems clear as glass that refuses
> to be psychoanalyzed, which I could
> not do anyway, even if I tried.


>To
> paraphrase: at 4-6 you were at Y,
> then decided on X, or vice versa
> depending on interpretation of
> exponents. In other words, at the
> core, the current oscillates,
> alternating, and as such, how one
> relates to certain kinds of data

When the girl Michelle is born
Eight loves everyone the same.
When he discovers sexual identity
he loves females differently from males.
The girl is born during the transition
from an asexual identity to sexual identity.
The 4th girl embodies the throwback
to that transition state- except still unresolved.

> will unmistakably be tinged

Colored shaded etc etc..

> accordingly - in some cases,
> preternaturally dead on accurate,

> and in others stone cold wrong,

How so?
By what measure?

I think we disagree on fundamentals.
Male spirits = Momentum / Towers / Wind
Female spirits = Rhythm / Balance / Water

> or better stated, unilaterally
> accurate specific to the perceiver's
> set of internal mechanisms tuned
> according to experience.

Blinded by personal bias.
I assert the same in reverse.
You see women differently than I do.
I see big boys and little boys.
Lesbians who love lesbians.
Homosexuals who love homosexuals
Still engaged in the transfer of momentum rhythum and balance.
Fagots are the jokers in the deck. No real identity.
A queer is a queer.
A fagot is a fagot.
Never the twain shall meet.
A queer has an identity.
A fagot is lost in the quest.

>Having
> said that, your 'wrong' is usually
> so damn interesting that it tends
> to fascinate and be infinitely better
> than most people's 'right' - Hah!

To quote that rogue of rogues:

(The set-up implying the discussion has value)

PHOTOJOURNALIST
"This is the way the fucking world ends! Look at this fucking shit
we're in, man! Not with a bang, with a whimper. And with a whimper,
I'm fucking splitting, jack!"
Photojournalist leaves :
WILLARD (v.o.)
"On the river, I thought that the minute I looked at him, I'd know
what
to do, but it didn't happen. I was in there with him for days, not
under
guard - I was free - but he knew I wasn't going anywhere. He knew
more about what I was going to do than I did. If the generals back in
the Trang could see what I saw, would they still want me to kill him?
More than ever probably. And what would his people back home want if
they ever learned just how far from them he'd really gone? He broke
from them and then he broke from himself. I'd never seen a man so
broken up and ripped apart..."
KURTZ
" I've seen horrors...horrors that you've seen. But you have no right
to call
me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do
that...But
you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe
what is
necessary to those who do not know what horror means.
Horror. Horror has a face...And you must make a friend of horror.
Horror and
moral terrorare your friends. If they are not then they are enemies to
be feared.
They are truly enemies. I remember when I was with Special
Forces...Seems
a thousand centuries ago...We went into a camp to innoculate the
children.
We left the camp after we had innoculated the children for Polio, and
this old
man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went
back there and they had come and hacked off every innoculated arm.
There
they were in a pile...A pile of little arms. And I
remember...I...I...I cried...
I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't
know what I
wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I
never want
to forget. And then I realized...like I was shot...Like I was shot
with a
diamond...a diamond bullet right through my forehead...And I thought:
My God...the genius of that. The genius. The will to do that. Perfect,
genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were
stronger than we. Because they could stand that these were not
monsters...These were men...trained cadres...these men who fought with
their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with
love...but they had the strength...the strength...to do that. If I had
ten
divisions of those men our troubles here would be over very quickly.
You
have to have men who are moral...and at the same time who are able to
utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling...without
passion...
without judgement...without judgement. Because it's judgement that
defeats us. "

> It is never important to me, or to
> anyone else who is an honest student
> of the 'Almighty True Mystery,'
> wherefore goest your current, because
> your genius for creative complexity
> tinged with searing honesty is
> righteously tuned into base-line

I tried to make it important to you
by offering you 500$ to blast through it
and give me a structural critique.

A professional and a personal opinion are two different things.
If you offered me 500$ to take your six stories and expand them
into a well paced novel the job would be finished in ten days flat.
So I understand your hang up is on some abstract moral high ground
that roughly approximates "the world is a neuron and that does not
compute."

Its a tiny section of the book.
Long before the compromise where everyone gathers
at the big table and hammers out an agreement on sequences.


> consciousness, and it's an honor
> to observe and be inspired enough
> to respond like a trouble-free child
> in a playground with all the time
> in the world. So, thanks man.

Literature is fun to discuss.
Thank you also.
I don't live in a world of right or wrong.
I live in the world of good evil and indifferent.
The story eats indifference as the slave of choice.
The whole thing is about choices and the outcomes.
Better to be good or evil than indifferent - that's the theme.

>The days
> ahead are going to be very, very
> difficult indeed,

Soory to hear that.

>as they always are,
> and always will be. I appreciate this
> brief exchange and wish you the best.

I posted V3 in Feb.
Feb to July is 6 months.
In the cosmic scale yes.
I gain insight by trying to answer questions.
I have a whole volume of tech from our previous
discussions.


> As a native of Oakland, I will always
> regard the city with ambivalent joy!

A koan?

I appreciate you assembling your stories.
In this world the girl is my youngest partner
she would choose continuity over this world.

In your story she dies,
In my story she is forbidden to access the core
but is welcome everywhere else.

I don't judge you as right or wrong.
I simply observe your judgement of "Other".

If I could find the original poem for the day in question
I would post it but it is in hiding somehow.
I don;t think its about right or wrong I think its about
creating creations and coming to peace with your own identity.

If the fagot theme throws you off its because it represents in the
story
the "perpetual-perceptual" as refusal to make decisions and explore
consequences.

How can people learn without making mistakes.
Lesson from mistakes turns errors into progress.

Final Word is The Almighty has no students only opponents.
Solve that koan and the temple disappears as cloud of illusion.
The cult of personality exists outside the core not within.
The girl embodies the cult of personality and its trivial pursuits.
At the outer boundary and inner boundary the momentum is direct
current
At the ever shifting boundary of the now momentum oscillates 180
degree turns.

I guess in the end you seek a female god.
I think you found one and maybe she hasn't let go.
Maybe she wants to argue with you in stories and distract you from
survival.
That's how she would play me for a chump if I bought into her
nonsensical ways.

Only the individual can assert value assignments.
The closer they match ATM the greater the momentum.

Ideas are real things.
Accuracy and precision matter.
Life is a search for power and quest for identity.
She tried to build many gods and ATM crushed them.

That's where you see a world of hardness as separation.
I see a stillborn world indifferent to creations magnitudes.
A bag of broken sticks gathered in the forest assembled into stick
men.
Periodically we check in and assess the situation in her private
asylum.


I don't judge the fact that your story progression kills her.
I merely state that spirits are very persistent and to know your enemy
is half the battle as many traditions state. The other half is to know
yourself.

Here's the reference link for draft 1&2

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.dreams.castaneda/browse_thread/thread/d995da82c7bc010b/49d5cc43ca3e6b30?hl=en&q=#49d5cc43ca3e6b30
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The Ambassadors of The Nine Armadas of The Lightship Consortium
returned to their All Black-64 ships and rapidly gained on the armada
as it moved towards the outer boundary.
Almighty began slowly walking towards the octagon shaped platform
with its four circles outside. The small ATM’s that had carved the one
hundred and eighty circles around the newly expanded fairgrounds:
placed the black circular planes with a central black pole in each
clearing, to receive the rings of momentum that would rise from the
core out of the Deepwater Lake.
They followed the All Might’s progress as it walked. Each small
ATM-32 exiting out of the perimeter clearings in the woods, as
Almighty passed that newly formed platform, ready to receive its
rings.
The ATM 32’s walked behind and entered the left or right foot: to
be returned to the core with Almighty, after the walk concluded, as
vertical sheets. The Three Black Onyx chairs were removed from the
central octagon and Eight sat on the stairs waiting for Almighty to
arrive.
Getting restless; he went to the center of the platform where the
little white ship was waiting for the Black Dragon to come and reclaim
it for about the: “ten thousandth time.”
Slightly exasperated he lay down and rested his head on it and
dreamed his standard call signal for the girl to hurry up and get
ready for the Assembly of Players closing ceremony.

(Wake Up)...


Michelle was sitting in the Arena next to Pierce when she saw the
clear light surrounded by smoked grays and blacks requesting
communication. She touched her heart saying silently: “Courage Heart
Intelligence” acquiescing to the boy’s nervous energies. The Boy
transmitted the story; and she watched the entire sequence, knowing
she might not see it too many more times and feeling nostalgic, for
all the times she had rivaled with the boy.
The standard story he transmits to her is about a boy who is
given an ant farm for Christmas; and enjoys it very much. He puts the
ants in their little world of two sheets of clear glass held by a
sturdy green plastic frame and experiences joy watching them dig
tunnels and being productive and enjoying themselves as ants.
He becomes solemn when he sees the ants bury their dead in the
deepest tunnels and cover them delicately. He mourns with them over
the noble life and service of their fallen comrades in arms. After
about a month of such observance and study, he notices the ants are
starting to fill the tunnels in because they have run out of space;
and no longer have any original work to do.
Finally: on one fateful morning, he sees they have dug up their dead
and stacked them casually on the upper surface of the farm. They
continue blindly filling and re-digging the same old tunnels again and
again.
After six days of this: he consults with his older brother about
what should be done explaining the horror he is feeling; about
becoming the god of the farm.
The older brother explains that he has three choices:
He can let the ants go on; and continue as they are until the last one
is dead. He could open the ant farm to release them and let fate take
its course; whether they survive or not. Or, finally, he could assume
permanent responsibility for them by building a larger ant farm. The
boy ends the story there.
The Dragon Girl knows that in the linear real world of 1965 he
released them to their fate, in the natural world, to die with honor.
Because he “did not know how to build a bigger ant farm,” and he
couldn’t face knowing, that his ant farm had become a gruesome daily
death march; in an ant prison system.
To sooth him, the girl always transmits back a sequence where he
finds two baby birds. Their mother has been killed by a clever cat and
they are homeless. The boy takes tender care of them: feeds them and
they grow for a while. But, they never learn to fly and eventually
die. He takes them to the cemetery and gives them a complete funeral
ceremony.

Their bodies wrapped in silk handkerchiefs, snuggly nestled in a
sturdy wooden cigar box, before he buries them solemnly under a giant
spruce tree.
Michelle knowing there was barely thirty minutes before the synch
lock between 59-67-79 dissipated in a flash; told Pierce she would be
right back. She found McBain standing in the central arena aisle near
the sound equipment that amplified the event, and told him Pierce was
up in the stands; pointing him out in the farthest northern tier near
the open windows. McBain thanked her and started heading upstairs to
talk to Pierce.
She left the arena for the lobby and found Aurian Tatianni
chatting with Templeton in the kitchen nook of the manager’s office.
She looked at Templeton, “Are you going to help us?”
Lisa shook her head slowly, indicating she was willing.
The girls grabbed the light coats they had on nearby hooks.
Only Michelle could cross the Tri-Guard Barrier by her will
alone. Lisa and Auri would have to access the three giant folds of
time across the transit under The Station’s compass.
The three girls ran to the Blue Diamond-T street chopped
pick-up and were at the access road entrance three minutes later. They
barreled up the access road at one hundred-forty miles per hour, with
Templeton driving a vehicle she had tested for this purpose.
Contractors ensconced in their hidden blinds and watch posts; flashed
various colored signals to the girls as they passed, indicating a
secure path and all clear for the crossing.
The Three Dragons: Michelle, Aurian, and Melissa; as beings
displaced by the passage of the ship of lights, administered by the
Lightmach Consortium, quickly entered The Fairgrounds on a fully
synchronized set of abridgement lines between: 59-67-79.
They crossed the Tri-Guard Barrier system without a hitch or the
slightest of earth tremors: in one of those three July Sevenths.
When the boy and girl had been mind talking across the data winds
generated by the synchronization, The Five Color Tribes placed the
thirty-six: medium sized, three foot spheres of black essence, housed
in onyx, around the outer edge of platform.
A medium sized cube: four foot by two foot of black onyx was then
placed behind each sphere; also housing essence. The sphere and cube
were followed by the placement of four small spheres behind the cubes;
to absorb stored information from The All Might Core in the Diamond
Lattice at the center of the Earth.
This is The Oracle configuration that Almighty completes when it
arrives: by placing a large black onyx cube, housing essence, to sit
on, with two large black spheres containing essence, in onyx; as arm
rests.

McBain found Pierce high in the rafters of The Arena as the stage
was darkened, awaiting the concert’s final two hour heavy metal show,
by opening night’s headliner band: The Kookers.
They shared a smoke and Mac handed Doc the little brown
leatherette book bound by two belt straps. Doc took a long studied
look to see if he could fathom anything at all from it.
McBain’s spherical time self: Twenty-Five, having allowed the
last of the outbound small gauge trains to enter, signaled to
Bailey-64 Black in the engine room to begin the descent to the core.
The train began gaining speed slowly in preparation for its twenty-
seven lightmach circuit inwards. They would transit backwards through
time to the old Tri-Guard Barrier, maintained by the Reptile Legions
and the Black and the Gold Legionnaires: permanently at 30000-32313
BC, of the ‘Common Era’ calendar computation. The small Military Dress
contingents exited the woods removing their black jump suits, taking
up their ceremonial position along the first half mile, where the
Origin-X, circuit train, would slowly gain speed above the three
magnetic lines.
It was customary to salute The Players who might never return if
unsuccessful. Lightmach-25, All-64 was now in motion towards the core
and accelerating as The All Might, walked slowly towards The
Octagon.

The triple magnetic lines under the railbed began activating the
manifold bridges between the lightmachs.
Pierce opened the leather book again, studying it for about two
minutes, with the flashlight McBain had been using to roust people out
of the aisles, down on the arena floor.
After about two minutes of studying the pages, he asked McBain if
he recognized anything on the two pieces of large brown canvas; with
multi-colored diagrams and markings. McBain said the only portion he
recognized with any certainty; was a depiction of the lights he had
seen in the sky. He told Pierce; that he saw a single point of light,
and did not realize the entire sky was dark and devoid of stars. That
he spoke to the tiny point of light, and it moved suddenly closer:
until it was the size of a dime. That he spoke to it again: and it
also moved closer once again, now becoming the size of a quarter. He
spoke to it one last time: and it then moved forward until the size of
a silver dollar, held at arms length, in a completely black sky.
Trevor confided in Doc, that he became very afraid quite
suddenly; while moving his hand, pointing to the other side of the
canvas drawings. He pointed to a line of twenty-five marks that
depicted what had occurred in the sky:

\\\
. . . . -0- *** .** *** ..* ***

Explaining reluctantly to Doc, that he had run away,
then returned with his two teammates from the parking lot above; and,
pointed to the still darkened starless sky telling them to
watch.
Drawing a finger under the maps right side, he said that first
there were three lights side by side, filling the whole Grand Canyon’s
middle space. They were slowly blinking, but not in the same rhythum.
The light on the left disappeared, and then reappeared and began
synchronizing with the light in the middle.
Once they were pulsing in the same rhythum they both disappeared
leaving only the light on the right visible. After they both returned,
they waited for the third light on the right to synchronize with the
first two; that stayed in the same pulse rhythum after reappearing,
and they were able to do it. Then, all three giant lights pulsed
several times together. Getting breathy and nervous; McBain pointed at
Pierce’s shirt for a smoke and Doc lit one and handed it to him.
“Then what Mac?”
“Different; it was different: Instead of just disappearing, like
before, when the one or two on the left disappeared, this time all
three were synchronized towards the end and slowly pulsing in the same
rhythum. This third time they were all trying to hold the exact same
meter for about ten rhythums or seconds.
While holding this very steady slow pulse, these little strings
appeared as if each light was the center of clock, and a hand was
added at 10:30, but at a forty-five degree angle, radiating out
towards some raised horizon in the distant low north northwest.”
Doc pointed to a drawing, wrapped in a cloud shaped circle of
five colors, with a black center and only three lines with dots
finishing at the center; “Is that it right here?”
McBain indicated that was the precise thing he saw just before they
all disappeared. Doc was silent, thinking for a minute.
“I think we may be under attack from alien intelligences that
travel in these things. The end sequence: is very much a three into
two dimensions; finally, becomes one dimensional.”
Pointing to the map he continued.
“See this, the point is one dimensional, and the line is one
dimensional, but below them is a sphere; which is the only two
dimensional object that can enclose a three dimensional space.”
“Doc, maybe it’s all the pot smoke in the air or a jet lag from
the trip home; but I don’t follow this explanation at all.”
“WE! Are BEING INVADED!” The concert goers nearby turned to look
at Pierce but he did not notice them; “I believe it could be a demonic
race of shape shifters, lead by a wily clever alien, posing as a
yellow striped tiger cat, with a extremely bizarre macabre sense of
humor; named Bob.”

Mac started laughing and fell half way off the thin rafter bench
seats and was grabbed by Doc and stopped halfway.
Trevor took a long drag off of the end of the cigarette.
He stubbed the spent smoke on the edge of the bench, and looked at
Pierce, to try to figure out if his old friend was giving it to him
good and hard, totally tweaking him; possibly believing McBain’s story
and the map was just an elaborate prank.
Pierce started laughing first and Mac started laughing second and
kept on laughing until they both had tears in there eyes at the
hysterical nature of what they had both just said to each other.
Pierce rolled up the canvas graphics and buckled the belted straps and
went to hand it back to McBain. Trevor raised both his hands: open
with palms outward.
“No way dude. That thing is bugging me to the point where
I want to burn it, and yet, it’s the only proof I have of three
strange occurrences.”
Mac began telling the story of Silas’s appearance at the Grand
Canyon, and then his trip with Lisa up the access road behind The
Lambeth Rope factory, with the colored lights and moving sheets.
Indicating to Pierce: that he believed the book was some sort of curse
object or magical poison to the mind.
Doc had listened intently, until Mac’s nervous tension was spent.
He did several calming exercises of counting breaths.
Doc began again in a more rational way, to try to tell McBain the
story of the strange talking cat: that was following him like a
stalker. He was interrupted by The Kookers taking to the darkened
stage and a roar of applause. He tapped McBain’s chest with the book
holding it up to show Trevor he was tucking it into his pants under
his shirt.
McBain told Doc to remember, to tell him about the cat from outer
space, after the show was over. They shared a cigarette watching the
small fireworks display, as The Kookers began their opening signature
song with its guitar driven pyrotechnics.
With the three girls on The Fairgrounds; Michelle said excuse me
and disappeared. She suddenly stood above the boy who was still
resting his head on the little white ship looking up at her. Making a
dramatic pretense of fury, she scowled at the boy with her hands on
her hips arms akimbo: “You are really starting to freak Pierce out
with that Bob The Cat routine.”
“I got him laid twice in twenty-four hours and a virgin on his
plate to boot. Plus... Bob scripts Bob; I’m not his agent!”
“You’re a wicked wicked wicked boy... and...” She turned to go,
angry enough to forget why she had come there in the first place.
Eight called out: “Forgetting something?”
He picked up the little ship that had just been brought to The
Octagon with such great pomp and circumstance making believe he was
going to toss it to her, as if it was a cheap Frisbee.

He thought better of it, being that they were in public, and
walked over to her with it. She stood on the edge of the granite
octagon with her hands still on her hips, still scowling at the boy
with tightly drawn pursed lips. He held out the small; All-White 32-
Red-A ship. Michelle took it gently and clasped it to her chest still
managing to maintain a scowl. She walked down the steps towards the
approaching All Might who came to a gentle stop to receive the ship;
bending on one knee. She placed it in his huge radiant palms, the
color of bright pearls. He placed it on his foot and stood up. The
girl turned back to the stage, yelling at the boy and The Almighty
bent down retrieving the ship from his foot and placed it over his
head where it disappeared.
She knew the boy was trying to take advantage of her and
pantomime some ridiculous maneuver if not actually play hacky sack
with the dam thing.
The boy found it extremely difficult to resist, mischief making,
and harmless nonsense, when he was so close to the robot and she was
also present. It was the force of ingrained habit, from the endless
times when she had feared the robot; not realizing it was quite
literally a policeman, the only cop; that could and would, arrest
Eight according to elaborate rules.
As she was gathering her wits back about her; she spied
Bob The Cat, peeking out cautiously, from behind a tree. Her patience
from several extremely stressful events, in less than twenty-four
hours, suddenly became totally exhausted. She hissed at him and shook
her fist. She stomped off to rejoin Auri and Lisa as they were
continuing down the hill from The Station.
Lisa was observing The Fairgrounds for the first time: in the
same clarified perception level as real linear time. While not showing
it outwardly, she was absolutely astounded, beyond being able to
speak. With butterflies in her chest and stomach she was also having
great trouble swallowing.
She felt as if each image was an engraved photograph being carved
into her heart. Lisa was starting to understand: why generations of
her family had sought and coveted information about this secret world;
that effected the real world so deeply and conclusively. The full
extent of her emotional realization would take time to sink in.


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>
> You see women differently than I do.
> I see big boys and little boys.
> Lesbians who love lesbians.
> Homosexuals who love homosexuals
> Still engaged in the transfer of momentum rhythum and balance.
> Fagots are the jokers in the deck. No real identity.
> A queer is a queer.
> A fagot is a fagot.
> Never the twain shall meet.
> A queer has an identity.
> A fagot is lost in the quest.

The Birds and the Bees and Mammals talk.
A serious grounding in the history of human
sexuality, clinical sexology, is amazing in
the degree that most people completely manage
to avoid it, including licensed shrinks who
maybe take a course or two. The BFSU to whom
I obliquely reference, rarely, is a practicing
clinical sexologist. I consider her something
of, if not completely, a soulmate. My love for
her transcends my deep liking of women in general.
I've known her for over a quarter century now.
My knowledge of clinical sexology, like lots of
people's, is minuscule, and yet I've learned
some things, like anyone learns anything, by not
prejudging, staying aware of the vast learning
curve impossible to completely encompass, and
just being around someone who lives it without
preaching it. At its core, I'm told, sex is the
most important defining aspect of human existence.
I've learned not to argue with that notion.
All human life begins as female. At a certain
stage the fetus may become male by androgenation,
hormone activation, testosterone, and the innate
raw female glob of future humanness turns male.
Even CC caught that vibe ('the predatory universe
is female') at some point (probably in a biology
class at UCLA), and so it goes. In my brief
association with the BFSU's very human world,
I've had a few occasions to meet and interact
with the fascinating phenomenon of the transsexual.
The few I've met have been amazing on many levels.
Usually extremely bright, lodged in some geek-
intensive occupation, and adept at navigating
the world while protecting themselves efficiently.
For one year a TS will live as the gender of
choice, pre-operation. One time, a male to female
TS helped me rebuild my 64 Chevy truck's engine
block. Dressed as female, she accompanied me to
the auto parts store. 'She' didn't really look
female, so I was really impressed by the guys at
the store who treated 'her' with complete
unaffected good humor and professional kindness.
'She' was a former mechanic who knew 'her' shit,
and so the truck got a decent upgrade.
I never found out how she did in life as a woman.
There are some abuses in the history of sexology,
like some doctors unsuccessfully experimenting on
raising someone who is of one gender as the
opposite gender, and even some operations have
been erroneously performed. Current neuroscientific
data on gender identity and sexual orientation
pretty much certifies that it's not so much hard
wired, but soft wired and generally predetermined
biologically. Sometimes I think that people who
make absolute statements about other people's
views about things come across as control freaks.
Threaten a child and that child either goes over
the bend or learns to self protect, preserve, and
control. That's a weird segue, but it isn't in
my competency to say anything else about anything
to you or anyone else about what is or isn't a
subtextural behavioral historical interpersonal
sideshow transient glitch. One day I'll finish
reading your book. Forgive me if it takes the rest
of my life. That is not a commentary on its value,
but an indication of my own insignificance to it.
Have you considered writing an autobiography after?
http://home.netcom.com/~mthorn/five_g.htm
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Its contextual.
The answer is based on that which penetrates and that which is
penetrated.
The spiritual version followed on by the physical psycho-sociological
version.

: accordingly - in some cases,


: preternaturally dead on accurate,
: and in others stone cold wrong,

How so?
By what measure?

I think we disagree on fundamentals.
Male spirits = Momentum / Towers / Wind
Female spirits = Rhythm / Balance / Water

: or better stated, unilaterally
: accurate specific to the perceiver's
: set of internal mechanisms tuned
: according to experience.

Blinded by personal bias.
I assert the same in reverse.

You see women differently than I do.
I see big boys and little boys.
Lesbians who love lesbians.
Homosexuals who love homosexuals
Still engaged in the transfer of momentum rhythum and balance.
Fagots are the jokers in the deck. No real identity.

( Added from personal study. Sado-Masochism often repeats the struggle
of searching for identity without the role assignment of the
penetrationist and the penetrated; with most aspects of sado-masochism
involving inflicting and receiving pain and the processes of waiting
to receive or inflict pain during periods of prolonged Bondage and
Dominance.)

A queer is a queer.
A fagot is a fagot.
Never the twain shall meet.
A queer has an identity.
A fagot is lost in the quest.

:Having


: said that, your 'wrong' is usually
: so damn interesting that it tends
: to fascinate and be infinitely better
: than most people's 'right' - Hah!


We differ in our opinions.
As to citing a spouses professional opinions.

I stand behind my premise. The wind/air is male the earth female the
ocean neither.
The Sun-Fire is the exchange between the competing forces of motion
and not-motion.

Did you marry your therapist?

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Bonding
Between a therapist and the patient, forms a really tight
relationship. They are bond together by so many things. Firstly the
therapist helps the patient solve his problems and by doing that he
needs to hear intimate thoughts and feelings , he needs to see the
real person behind all the masks. Sometimes this reality can be very
dangerous and sometimes a therapist can fall in love. Maybe that
patients turns out to be perfect for the therapist. Love is irrational
and comes all of the sudden. You can`t control this feeling and if
love is mutual, then it can start a beautiful relationship. More
difficult is the part where the law steps in. Between doctors and
patients it can`t be any intimate relationship, for many reasons.
First, the patient comes to the therapist because he has a problem.

The patient can have be mental problems, low esteem problems, fear
issues, bad habits, bad childhood, traumas etc. By starting a
relationship with the doctor it can become quite confusing for the
patient and after a possible break up, that person`s personality could
suffer . To start a relationship with a patient it`s best to transfer
that patient to another doctor and then continue the relationship.
This is the best way one can still keep the relationship and the work
office also. It could be awkward to have a relationship and still keep
going to the therapist.

Therapist marrying client it`s a rare situation. There have been cases
where the two have fallen in love and ended up marrying each other.
Starting a love story with your therapist can be actually great. A
therapist is a person that can help you with all your problems and
having the a doctor besides you and your soul mate , can be a good
combination. But we have to think that therapists are also people that
make mistakes. We can`t aspect to have a great relationship just
because our better half is a therapist. Giving advices is very easy,
it`s more difficult for those in question to put in practice those
advices. It can be also challenging to start a relationship with your
therapist. At first he helps you solve your problems but a therapist
is a therapist at work.

This is his job, when coming home, he doesn`t want to hear problems
again. He does this already all day long, so coming home means
relaxing. Every relationship is difficult, depends on us how we deal
with ours. People believe in love stories or they want to believe so,
falling in love with a patient or with your doctor, can be a very
romantic idea. Maybe some will start going to therapy to meet
somebody. There are all kinds of people, and if love strikes you
exactly when you don`t expect it, what can you do? As a conclusion
therapist marrying client is not so bad if you look at it from a
positive perspective.

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Aleister Crowley (pronounced /ˈkroʊli/; 12 October 1875 – 1 December
1947), born Edward Alexander Crowley, and also known as both Frater
Perdurabo and The Great Beast, was an influential English occultist,
mystic and ceremonial magician, responsible for founding the religious
philosophy of Thelema. He was a member of the esoteric Hermetic Order
of the Golden Dawn, as well as a co-founder of the A∴A∴ and eventually
a leader of Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.). He is known today for his
magical writings, especially The Book of the Law, the central sacred
text of Thelema, although he also wrote widely on other subjects,
including a large amount of fiction and poetry.

Crowley was also a hedonist, bisexual, recreational drug experimenter,
and social critic.[1] In many of these roles he "was in revolt against
the moral and religious values of his time", espousing a form of
libertinism based upon the rule of "Do What Thou Wilt".[2] Because of
this, he gained widespread notoriety during his lifetime, and was
denounced in the popular press of the day as "the wickedest man in the
world."[3][4][5][6] Alongside his esoteric activities, he was an avid
chess player, mountaineer, poet, and playwright, and it has also been
alleged that he was a spy for the British government.[7]

In 2002, a BBC poll described Crowley as being the seventy-third
greatest Briton of all time, whilst he has influenced and been
referenced by numerous writers, musicians and filmmakers, including
Alan Moore, Ozzy Osbourne, The Beatles, Iron Maiden, Jimmy Page, David
Bowie, Kenneth Anger, L. Ron Hubbard, Timothy Leary, Robert Anton
Wilson, Marilyn Manson, John Frusciante, Danny Carey, and Harry
Everett Smith. He has also been cited as a key influence on many later
esoteric groups and individuals, including figures like Kenneth Grant,
Gerald Gardner, and to some degree Austin Osman Spare.

Death
An old Aleister Crowley.

In January 1945, Crowley moved to Netherwood, a Hastings boarding
house where in the first three months he was visited twice by Dion
Fortune; she died herself of leukemia in January 1946. On 14 March
1945, in a letter Fortune wrote to Crowley, she declares: "... The
acknowledgement I made in the introduction of The Mystical Qabalah of
my indebtness to your work, which seemed to me to be no more than
common literary honesty, has been used as a rod for my back by people
who look on you as Antichrist."[105]

Crowley died at Netherwood on 1 December 1947 at the age of 72.
According to one biographer the cause of death was a respiratory
infection.[106] He had become addicted to heroin after being
prescribed morphine for his asthma and bronchitis many years earlier.
[107] He and his last doctor died within 24 hours of each other;
newspapers would claim, in differing accounts, that Dr. Thomson had
refused to continue his opiate prescription and that Crowley had put a
curse on him.[108]

Biographer Lawrence Sutin passes on various stories about Crowley's
death and last words. Frieda Harris supposedly reported him saying, "I
am perplexed," though she did not see him at the very end. According
to John Symonds, a Mr. Rowe witnessed Crowley's death along with a
nurse, and reported his last words as "Sometimes I hate myself."
Biographer Gerald Suster accepted the version of events he received
from a "Mr W.H." who worked at the house, in which Crowley dies pacing
in his living room.[106] Supposedly Mr W.H. heard a crash while
polishing furniture on the floor below, and entered Crowley's rooms to
find him dead on the floor.

Patricia "Deirdre" MacAlpine, who visited Crowley with their son and
her three other children, denied all this and reports a sudden gust of
wind and peal of thunder at the (otherwise quiet) moment of his death.
According to MacAlpine, Crowley remained bedridden for the last few
days of his life, but was in light spirits and conversational.
Readings at the cremation service in nearby Brighton included one of
his own works, Hymn to Pan, and newspapers referred to the service as
a black mass. The Brighton council subsequently resolved to take all
the necessary steps to prevent such an incident from occurring again

LowRider44M

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Lesbians marry Lesbians.
Homosexuals marry Homosexuals.
Heterosexuals marry Heterosexuals.
Male to Female Transsexuals marry Male Heterosexuals
Female to Male Transsexuals marry Female Heterosexuals

A Bisexual either chooses an identity or become Identity-less.
If a Bisexual marries a Bisexual sexual identity is decided by their
genitalia


Social identity is decided by the course of events between the
participants in a social setting and rarely has anything to do with
sexual identity.
Example: Elton John and Freddy Mercury are personal heroes of mine
based on the depth of their artistry not whether they engage in anal
or oral sex as the penetrating partner or penetrated partner or
neither.

So the social identity setting is heroic artistry and the sexual
identity is largely unknown to me.


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THE FIVE GENDER SENTIENTS, [circa 1995]
linked n-dimensionally, i.e., parallel
naked singularity expanse, having evolved
technologically further due to Paul-2's
untimely demise upon the revelatory road
(unrecoverable heart condition), thereby
allowing a more accelerated social pace did
finally transition themselves to virtual
space wherein a certain segment donned
attire befitting dark royalty and a savage
beastiary. Much brain gnashing and stormy
controversy precipitated said transition,
as the much heralded equivalent to
"cyberspace" had earlier proved to be
little more than a heightened form of
schizophrenia. Corrective measures were
taken, needless to say, and a host of
worlds were devised amidst the storm.

The segment in question populated a dusky,
jeweled valley surrounded by chaotically
spiraling peaks. Upon the highest of these
peaks, towering in silhouette against a
purple black sky, stood a great ZIGGURAT
illumined from within by an ominous
blue light.

The five genders spread out upon the valley
floor to practice their art, which was at
this time general discourse and speculation
about the inapproachable edifice timelessly
embedded above them. A strange attractor it
was, and even the original programmers were
unavailable for comment for they were lost
in their own world of peculiar geometries
and nonlinear equations.

A general rotation existed among the
inhabitants on the valley floor so that
a particular Dark Lady or Lord (or other
three genders), discoursing elegantly and
eloquently to an elite, surrounded by a
cacophonous horde of mouth foaming, intensely
defecating, scurrying beasts, could in the
next moment be enthusiastically engaged in
the same bestial behavior - and vice versa.
This practice was considered quite edifying.

Into this arena did wander a solitary outworlder,
who upon observing this dissonant symphony was
heard to utter the equivalent of: "This is cool."
Whereupon a narrow red beam shot out from
somewhere deep in the valley floor, grabbed his
cognitive core and flung it through the virtual
wall towards the Other n-dimensional parallel
naked singularity expanse, i.e., this world.

On his way out, he happened to receive word from
the current discoursing Lord or Lady (or other
three) the equivalent of: "Keep your eyes open
and find out what you can about this fucking
building." The outworlder, now twice removed,
finding his cognitive core embedded in a barely
evolved entity amidst a very low-grade civilization,
fought off the obvious depression such a state
would naturally engender and set out to explore.

What he found was an aberrant time capsule
filled with things at once delightful, menacing
and troubling, yet a deep atavism soon got him
into the swing of things.

Devising various means for survival he observed
much and managed to eke out a prolonged life,
even marrying. Advanced in years, and while
performing the equivalent of humping his wife,
or vice versa, another red beam shot out
unexpectedly and reversed the whole process,
to the dismay of his remaining wife.

Now standing at the foot of one of the discoursing
five, who at the time of his original departure was
no doubt spewing and defecating maliciously, the
outworlder conveyed, in a distilled form, the
relevant information:

Similarly evolved primate forms with an
as yet underdeveloped cognitive fluidity.
Bipolar genders for the most part but changing.
Repressive hierarchy, unconscious - conspiracy
paranoia runs rampant. Apparently someone named
Paul was a bifurcation point, but I pre-date it
to that. Threshold technology. Periodic magi,
an awkward male to female ratio. Zero or little
rotation. A magus arrives, writes a book of sorts,
specifically a strange attractor. Some books are
thinly disguised maps, others are political
experiments and others are exercises in virtual
psychosis. Most are self-serving. Still,
occasionally, a few indicate preliminary cognitive
fluidity or leakage: n-dimensionally speaking.
Curiously, various segments rally around a
particular book and/or magus and attempt to adopt
or emulate manifestations of the magus' essence,
hence, behaviors unique to the magus spill over
into a collective behavior. This is understandable
given the level of evolution, and probably useful
as well for awhile, but it is surprising how
infrequently it occurs to them to write their own
books, figuratively speaking, and dump the magus.
Another thing...

At this point, the outworlder was interrupted with
the equivalent of: "Look, we don't give a shit about
that stuff, what about the building?" The outworlder,
realizing that the inhabitants of this realm were
developing an unhealthy fixation on the ziggurat
above them, which, considering the relatively recent
development of virtual space, precluded the
possibility of said building actually existing
"timelessly", continued his distilled dissertation
without missing a beat. This had the effect of
increasing the general frenzy of the beastiary,
while the Lords and Ladies (and three other genders)
impatiently displayed the signs of growing discontent.
Rotation was undoubtedly immanent.
The outworlder continued:

Another thing. By their chronology, the
equivalent of a millennium is soon to pass.
This has the curious effect, which has repeated
itself several times before, of whipping into a
frenzy - with apologies to the beastiary - the
deeper recesses of cognition in certain segments
of the population. These segments, having been
inundated with new, by their standards,
technologies, compounded by self-induced
experiments with cognitive fluidity chemicals,
as well as lingering, bankrupt, misinterpreted
traditions have arrived at the conclusion that
history, as they know it, will soon end.

Along with the aforementioned factors, this
intuition on their part is further bolstered
by the works of several contemporary magi.
One apprehended the fractal nature of time,
weighted it down with an ancient probability
oracle and predicted an omega point shortly
following the millennium. Many are aligned
with this notion. One other promulgates
autonomous free zones, and another sees
n-dimensional mind-links of a wavelike nature
precipitating said transition.

Interference patterns. Outworld interference.
Temporal interference. Self-induced interference.
Interference. While they bide their time awaiting
this event, they miss the most important point
of all, which is...

Again the outworlder was interrupted, but this
time with the equivalent of: "Enough, can't you see
you're boring the crap out of us? What about the
fucking building?!"

The outworlder, now slightly miffed, but recognizing
a worn out welcome when he saw one, immediately
exited the realm through the front door of the
ziggurat (just to annoy the valley inhabitants below),
and managed to return to the Other n-dimensional
parallel naked singularity expanse, i.e. this world,
and his waiting wife - still in mid hump. He lived
out the remainder of his primitive life in relative
peace and quiet.

1995 MT
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BP says cementing operations on Gulf well are successful
Cost of the response to the catastrophic oil spill soars to $6.1
billion

By Polya Lesova, MarketWatch

FRANKFURT (MarketWatch) -- Energy giant BP PLC said Monday it has
successfully cemented the Macondo well in the Gulf of Mexico and no
new oil has flown into the sea since mid-July, as the cost of the
response to the catastrophic spill climbed to $6.1 billion.

Shares of BP (NYSE:BP) (LONDON:UK:BP.) gained 2% in morning trading in
London after falling 22% over the past three months.

"BP believes the static kill and cementing procedures have been
successful," the firm said in a statement.

Cementing operations on the Macondo well were completed last Thursday
and pressure testing has shown that there was an effective cement plug
in the casing.


A relief well, however, remains the ultimate solution to permanently
seal the Macondo well.

BP is making progress on relief-well operations started in early May;
that well is currently at a measured depth of nearly 18,000 feet.

Operations on the second relief well, which started in mid-May, have
been suspended at a measured depth of around 15,800 feet, so they
don't interfere with the completion of the first relief well.

BP said workers continue to identify and collect oil on the surface of
the sea as well as to collect and clean up oil that has reached shore.

"Since July 15, no new oil has flowed into the Gulf of Mexico" from
the well, BP said.

Over the last several days, BP has found smaller quantities of oil to
skim. To date, skimming operations have recovered over 826,000 barrels
of oily liquid.

BP also said that the cost of the spill response has soared to around
$6.1 billion. In the middle of June, the firm announced the creation
of a $20 billion escrow account to meet its obligations arising from
the spill.

BP has also said it plans to dispose of up to $30 billion of assets in
order to ensure it has enough cash on hand to cover the spill costs.

Last week, it agreed to sell its oil and gas exploration business in
Colombia to a consortium of Ecopetrol, Colombia's national oil
company, and Talisman of Canada, for $1.9 billion in cash.

BP is also mulling disposing of assets in Venezuela, and it has
already signed a deal to sell oil and natural-gas fields across North
America and Egypt to Apache Corp. (NYSE:APA) for $7 billion

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